Oh, yes, but only if people could be trusted not to attempt both at the same time.Should we legalise troll hunting and cannabis?
Are they illegal? Gosh, I'll have to do something about that.Should we legalise troll hunting and cannabis?
I like trolls!
But I also like to kill, hard choice.
I kid, i kid.
I hear Cameroon is about to make it part of Conservative policy. lol. The troll hunting will be of course a way of replacing fox hunting. I hear also that special breeds of dogs are already going around in Germany with blue rubber boots for this new game sport.
Yes and no. Hunting trolls is great fun, but legalising cannabis would take away half the fun of scoring.
I'll give you one guess why it is called Dope?
If you use it you are STUPID.
Good idea LB
You could organise a safari - you got the hat for it
Absolutely
Hold on a sec.....lemme go get my dart gun and bong....
You mean they're not legal already......?
you bet ye
Sunday, January 24, 2010
When is black bear hunting season in B.C, vancouver?
when does the season start and on march, would you see any black bears around this time of the season? The weather appears to be getting warm.When is black bear hunting season in B.C, vancouver?
its actaully in september
its actaully in september
Tips on NYC Apartment Hunting?
I want to move to NYC, and am looking at apartments in Brooklyn. What are the best neighborhoods, and the worst?
And if you have any tips to snag a sweet deal; like apts by owner or broker? And lastly, what is the best time to move there?Tips on NYC Apartment Hunting?
Brooklyn Heights, Dumbo (very expensive almost like Manhattan), Carroll Gardens, parts of Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope. The wortst parts are East New York, Brownsville, Bushwick parts of Bed-Sty. You can look at craigslist.com, nypost, daily news, realtor or building/apartment signs. You just have to comparison shop. The winter, or right after school starts in September (these will be stale listings).
And if you have any tips to snag a sweet deal; like apts by owner or broker? And lastly, what is the best time to move there?Tips on NYC Apartment Hunting?
Brooklyn Heights, Dumbo (very expensive almost like Manhattan), Carroll Gardens, parts of Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope. The wortst parts are East New York, Brownsville, Bushwick parts of Bed-Sty. You can look at craigslist.com, nypost, daily news, realtor or building/apartment signs. You just have to comparison shop. The winter, or right after school starts in September (these will be stale listings).
I need to know all the details on how to grow sunflower seeds for dove hunting in texas?
Contact the Texas Dept.of Agriculture
How come hunting items like shotguns or rifles cant be veiwed online? I tried big5 ect.?
I've often asked this myself, and the best answer I can come up with is the fact that you cannot purchase them directly through the website, so why bother posting them there? Your best bet would be to call the stores locally and speak to a sales representative in the sporting goods department - it may not be as convienient, but it will still save you the time of driving between them.How come hunting items like shotguns or rifles cant be veiwed online? I tried big5 ect.?
because they didn't know the people that needed them could use the internet?How come hunting items like shotguns or rifles cant be veiwed online? I tried big5 ect.?
Big five sucks, go to super wal-mart
You can see them on line on any manufactures web site.
On chain stores, some stores won't carry guns and can't sell them. In order to have guns shipped to you, you need a Federal Firearms License and some places that sell guns require you to have an FFL before you can purchase them. Manufaturers have a list on there web stites but the prices are retail prices.
to prevent hunting accidents online
because they didn't know the people that needed them could use the internet?How come hunting items like shotguns or rifles cant be veiwed online? I tried big5 ect.?
Big five sucks, go to super wal-mart
You can see them on line on any manufactures web site.
On chain stores, some stores won't carry guns and can't sell them. In order to have guns shipped to you, you need a Federal Firearms License and some places that sell guns require you to have an FFL before you can purchase them. Manufaturers have a list on there web stites but the prices are retail prices.
to prevent hunting accidents online
What do you think of the North American Hunting Club?
NAHC?
Personally, I really liked their magazine you got with their membership (North American Hunter was it?)
And to be honest, some of the books they send you are good too.
However, the NAHC is like paying to join a sales club like Columbia House or BMG. When you join, you are bombarded by junk mail and they constantly send you sh*t to buy. As I said, I liked some of the things, but if you open it, you have to pay to send it back (about about $4 a package).
It finally got to the point that when they sent me something to buy, I'd just put refused on the package and give it back to the post office.
As JD mentioned, I don't recall ever seeing one useful thing they did with the dues.
I should have known it was a scam the first time I received a letter from those guys. I think I was 15 years old and only on my second season of deer hunting (I don't think I even killed a deer yet). I got the letter to ';Dear Fellow Hunter'; inviting me to join their club that they just don't let anyone into, only the best hunters. What can I say, I was young and dumb back then.
I joined them a second time after college because I did like their magazine. Big f***ing mistake. They keep hitting you up for money and keep tempting you with drawings for free hunts and hunting gear.
Do yourself a favor...stay away from them.
Do your part for the environment, don't joinWhat do you think of the North American Hunting Club?
The NAHC is an amazing club with a fantastic magazine I would highly recommend to anyone that they should join. The magazines alone are worth the cost.
What do you think of the North American Hunting Club?
D all of the above.
I was a member just over 20 years ago and still get ';last time offers'; in the mail. The only thing I enjoyed was the NAHC books on ELK, Bears, Deer, etc.
It's a great organization, I've been a member for 5 years. They send you tons of free stuff and even send you new products to test in the field. Plus they rally with the NRA to protect our gun rights.
they are the biggest rip off going
they send you stuff you don't request then when you send it back they never seem to get it back and continue to charge you for the items and turn you over to a collection agency when you have told them numerous times the stuff was sent back unopened return to sender check your records.
They Suck! Sorry this outfir is a Pet Peeve of mine.. Not one cent of your membership money goes to support ANY Wildlife causes or Hunter's Right's or Hunting agenda's, NRA, NOTHING.-0-, NONE, NADA! They literally collect your ';dues'; than sell your addresses (Home %26amp; E-mail) to different businesses and organizations that will try to sell you things. They are relentless with JUNK mail too, and send you things you never ordered !!. I had to file a complaint with the Postal Inspectors Office (Postal Police) to get my name and information deleted from their ';list';......NAHC is a total crock, fraud and a rip-off!
It's a bulllshit con rip off. You will get forests full of junkmail and nothing of value in return!!!
Do not sign up!clinique
Personally, I really liked their magazine you got with their membership (North American Hunter was it?)
And to be honest, some of the books they send you are good too.
However, the NAHC is like paying to join a sales club like Columbia House or BMG. When you join, you are bombarded by junk mail and they constantly send you sh*t to buy. As I said, I liked some of the things, but if you open it, you have to pay to send it back (about about $4 a package).
It finally got to the point that when they sent me something to buy, I'd just put refused on the package and give it back to the post office.
As JD mentioned, I don't recall ever seeing one useful thing they did with the dues.
I should have known it was a scam the first time I received a letter from those guys. I think I was 15 years old and only on my second season of deer hunting (I don't think I even killed a deer yet). I got the letter to ';Dear Fellow Hunter'; inviting me to join their club that they just don't let anyone into, only the best hunters. What can I say, I was young and dumb back then.
I joined them a second time after college because I did like their magazine. Big f***ing mistake. They keep hitting you up for money and keep tempting you with drawings for free hunts and hunting gear.
Do yourself a favor...stay away from them.
Do your part for the environment, don't joinWhat do you think of the North American Hunting Club?
The NAHC is an amazing club with a fantastic magazine I would highly recommend to anyone that they should join. The magazines alone are worth the cost.
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What do you think of the North American Hunting Club?
D all of the above.
I was a member just over 20 years ago and still get ';last time offers'; in the mail. The only thing I enjoyed was the NAHC books on ELK, Bears, Deer, etc.
It's a great organization, I've been a member for 5 years. They send you tons of free stuff and even send you new products to test in the field. Plus they rally with the NRA to protect our gun rights.
they are the biggest rip off going
they send you stuff you don't request then when you send it back they never seem to get it back and continue to charge you for the items and turn you over to a collection agency when you have told them numerous times the stuff was sent back unopened return to sender check your records.
They Suck! Sorry this outfir is a Pet Peeve of mine.. Not one cent of your membership money goes to support ANY Wildlife causes or Hunter's Right's or Hunting agenda's, NRA, NOTHING.-0-, NONE, NADA! They literally collect your ';dues'; than sell your addresses (Home %26amp; E-mail) to different businesses and organizations that will try to sell you things. They are relentless with JUNK mail too, and send you things you never ordered !!. I had to file a complaint with the Postal Inspectors Office (Postal Police) to get my name and information deleted from their ';list';......NAHC is a total crock, fraud and a rip-off!
It's a bulllshit con rip off. You will get forests full of junkmail and nothing of value in return!!!
Do not sign up!
Which type of gun is best for killing(hunting) bear a 30-06 or 300 magnum?
Both of these calibers will have no problem taking any black bear that you might encounter, with proper shot placement and the proper bullet. The .300 Winchester Magnum (I assume this is the one you are talking about) is the minimum recommended caliber for Grizzlies, though certainly not the best to stop a charge, the .338 Win Mag would be a better choice for grizzly/brown bear hunting. The 30-06 will be cheaper and more pleasant to shoot than a .300 Mag unless recoil is not an issue for you. Good luck and be safe!Which type of gun is best for killing(hunting) bear a 30-06 or 300 magnum?
Whichever you own really, whichever you shoot better. They both shoot the same bullets. A typical '06 round will punch right through a black bear and dump the rest of its energy in the hillside behind it. A 300 mag will do the same but dump more energy into the hillside.
If I was going after grizzly or really big bears up north, the 06 is the minimum, I'd choose the magnum for them. But for blacks, anything that will drop a deer, .243 or better, will be more than enough.Which type of gun is best for killing(hunting) bear a 30-06 or 300 magnum?
the .30-06 in enough for black bear, use at least a 180gr bullet.
the .300 mag is not necessary, but extra power is never a bad thing, and the 200gr load would be devastating
But for brown/grizzly, .338 mag is superior, 250-275gr bullet, and the 416 is better yet. Now there is some anecdotal evidence claiming to be statistical reality which shows more quicker kills with the lighter 200-225gr in .338, and it certainly is possible, but until I figure out just why, I will continue to use and recommend heavy bullets.
Depends greatly on what kind of bear. For black bears the .300 mag can be used but is a bit much and the 30-06 fine, however they can be taken with the good ol鈥?30-30 with a well placed shot.
Now if you are talking brown bears or Grizzlies then I would pick the .300 win mag or larger rifle.
Bullet placement is the most important factor and for the big bears you need a deep penetrating bullet. For black bears any round suitable for deer will work. I have taken a few with the 30-06 with 165gr and 150gr jacketed soft tip bullets.
Both will work on black bears. The only draw back with the 300 mag is a bad shot will destroy more meat and cause greater pelt damage.
* The 30-06 will harvest any Big Game in North America as well as even a Bull Cape Buffalo in Africa using a 220 grain solid Barnes bullet for a one shot kill.* Magnums are not needed or necessary when you have a 30-06.*
30-06 is more than enough for black bear, and any 30 caliber is asking for trouble with brownies. A rifle with a big hole in the end for big critters that can put big holes in you is a sensible precaution.
30-06 for black bears and .338/458mag for big brown/grisly.....short and sweet.
The one you can shoot the best.
180 grain 30-06. good luck.
when only 1 side is armed, it's called a slaughter not a sport
both r plenty big in the right hands
Whichever you own really, whichever you shoot better. They both shoot the same bullets. A typical '06 round will punch right through a black bear and dump the rest of its energy in the hillside behind it. A 300 mag will do the same but dump more energy into the hillside.
If I was going after grizzly or really big bears up north, the 06 is the minimum, I'd choose the magnum for them. But for blacks, anything that will drop a deer, .243 or better, will be more than enough.Which type of gun is best for killing(hunting) bear a 30-06 or 300 magnum?
the .30-06 in enough for black bear, use at least a 180gr bullet.
the .300 mag is not necessary, but extra power is never a bad thing, and the 200gr load would be devastating
But for brown/grizzly, .338 mag is superior, 250-275gr bullet, and the 416 is better yet. Now there is some anecdotal evidence claiming to be statistical reality which shows more quicker kills with the lighter 200-225gr in .338, and it certainly is possible, but until I figure out just why, I will continue to use and recommend heavy bullets.
Depends greatly on what kind of bear. For black bears the .300 mag can be used but is a bit much and the 30-06 fine, however they can be taken with the good ol鈥?30-30 with a well placed shot.
Now if you are talking brown bears or Grizzlies then I would pick the .300 win mag or larger rifle.
Bullet placement is the most important factor and for the big bears you need a deep penetrating bullet. For black bears any round suitable for deer will work. I have taken a few with the 30-06 with 165gr and 150gr jacketed soft tip bullets.
Both will work on black bears. The only draw back with the 300 mag is a bad shot will destroy more meat and cause greater pelt damage.
* The 30-06 will harvest any Big Game in North America as well as even a Bull Cape Buffalo in Africa using a 220 grain solid Barnes bullet for a one shot kill.* Magnums are not needed or necessary when you have a 30-06.*
30-06 is more than enough for black bear, and any 30 caliber is asking for trouble with brownies. A rifle with a big hole in the end for big critters that can put big holes in you is a sensible precaution.
30-06 for black bears and .338/458mag for big brown/grisly.....short and sweet.
The one you can shoot the best.
180 grain 30-06. good luck.
when only 1 side is armed, it's called a slaughter not a sport
both r plenty big in the right hands
Opinions on the remington 870 express for deer hunting in MA?
im gona but my first shotgun soon and just want some opinionsOpinions on the remington 870 express for deer hunting in MA?
Top choice but I differ on the barrel, get the interchangeable barrel set up, one rifled for slugs, the other with the rem-choke in it for upland game and duck. One gun multiple uses.
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores鈥?/a>Opinions on the remington 870 express for deer hunting in MA?
The Remington 870 is a tried and true platform. Chosen by police and hunters alike all over the country.
Buy one with a rifle slug barrel if your going to hunt deer. It will make a great deer gun out to 200 yards.
870 was my second shotgun(after a bolt .410 my dad found somewhere). Great gun.
He's right, buy a rifled barrel and practice.
Top choice but I differ on the barrel, get the interchangeable barrel set up, one rifled for slugs, the other with the rem-choke in it for upland game and duck. One gun multiple uses.
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores鈥?/a>Opinions on the remington 870 express for deer hunting in MA?
The Remington 870 is a tried and true platform. Chosen by police and hunters alike all over the country.
Buy one with a rifle slug barrel if your going to hunt deer. It will make a great deer gun out to 200 yards.
870 was my second shotgun(after a bolt .410 my dad found somewhere). Great gun.
He's right, buy a rifled barrel and practice.
Im going hunting in china is it ok to shoot pandas?
i want to put one up in my trophy roomIm going hunting in china is it ok to shoot pandas?
NO, No, no, it wouldn't be much of a challenge or achievement even if it was permitted.*Im going hunting in china is it ok to shoot pandas?
Your an idiot. They are extremely endangered, so you would be poaching if you shot one.
what?! u have the sickest mind! 1) who would want to go hunting and 2) pandas are fantastic creatures and are endangered! this question has to b a joke. u can't possibly be serious.
I think you are more likely to get a permit to hunt humans than Pandas in china or any where else.
Pandas are a globally protected species.
I think you are just trying to attract attention, if you checked any search engine or the chinese consulate they would dismiss your question as quickly as any of us here.
Why don't you go to rural India and order a Steak!
Since the Chinese consider the panda to be almost a national treasure and are very choosy about which nations and zoos get them I doubt they would let a jackass hunt them.
your not going hunting in China
The real use of firearms in china is to shoot the tollitarian regime and it's puppets.
NO, No, no, it wouldn't be much of a challenge or achievement even if it was permitted.*Im going hunting in china is it ok to shoot pandas?
Your an idiot. They are extremely endangered, so you would be poaching if you shot one.
what?! u have the sickest mind! 1) who would want to go hunting and 2) pandas are fantastic creatures and are endangered! this question has to b a joke. u can't possibly be serious.
I think you are more likely to get a permit to hunt humans than Pandas in china or any where else.
Pandas are a globally protected species.
I think you are just trying to attract attention, if you checked any search engine or the chinese consulate they would dismiss your question as quickly as any of us here.
Why don't you go to rural India and order a Steak!
Since the Chinese consider the panda to be almost a national treasure and are very choosy about which nations and zoos get them I doubt they would let a jackass hunt them.
your not going hunting in China
The real use of firearms in china is to shoot the tollitarian regime and it's puppets.
Okay why use the EMF meters for ghost hunting.?
Forgive my ignorance but I have not understood why this instrument is used. Do ghosts really emit electric magnetic fields?
If so how? Please educate me.Okay why use the EMF meters for ghost hunting.?
It's the common folklore that ghosts can emit or disturb EM fields, but whether it's true, and whether it can even be known, is a different question.
The use of EMF meters have come about by a general trend in ghost hunting lately to become more ';gadgety';, in other words to put on the trappings of scientific investigation. To most people, that usually means carrying around and using complex electronic equipment and speaking in jargon. Whether that equipment actually delivers measurements that can be analyzed via scientific theory is irrelevant -- the real purpose is to carry it around and to look like you're using it for something important. Sorry that sounds cynical, but that's really what it's for.
There has been no scientific study which supports the correlation between spirits and EMF. In fact, before such a study can even be done, it is necessary to show that spirits exist via scientific, objective measurements, and of course that has not happened. All that you've got right now is ';oh, I just felt a chill... look, the EMF needle jumped! Must be a ghost!';, which is very subjective, badly controlled, bad logic, and not good evidence at all.Okay why use the EMF meters for ghost hunting.?
Electro-Magnetic Field Meters (EMFs) are used in ghost investigations in order to help eliminate one of the many normal explanations for such experiences as ';feeling as someone is watching me';
This theory has been scientifically demonstrated in a laboratory environment by qualified scientists (link below).
They may not prove ghost are present but they may help suggest why people are experiencing ghost.
Unfortunately, many amateur investigators are unaware of the theory, experimental work, or even how to properly use the equipment. Traditional scientist (even parapsychologist) CHOOSE to allow amateurs to remain uninformed and uneducated rather to bother to offer guidelines, standards, and training in investigations.
As a result shows like ';Ghost Hunter'; become considered scientific and funding for parapsychology is reduced due to the public associating the science of parapsychology with the nonsense on TV.
Psiexploration
If so how? Please educate me.Okay why use the EMF meters for ghost hunting.?
It's the common folklore that ghosts can emit or disturb EM fields, but whether it's true, and whether it can even be known, is a different question.
The use of EMF meters have come about by a general trend in ghost hunting lately to become more ';gadgety';, in other words to put on the trappings of scientific investigation. To most people, that usually means carrying around and using complex electronic equipment and speaking in jargon. Whether that equipment actually delivers measurements that can be analyzed via scientific theory is irrelevant -- the real purpose is to carry it around and to look like you're using it for something important. Sorry that sounds cynical, but that's really what it's for.
There has been no scientific study which supports the correlation between spirits and EMF. In fact, before such a study can even be done, it is necessary to show that spirits exist via scientific, objective measurements, and of course that has not happened. All that you've got right now is ';oh, I just felt a chill... look, the EMF needle jumped! Must be a ghost!';, which is very subjective, badly controlled, bad logic, and not good evidence at all.Okay why use the EMF meters for ghost hunting.?
Electro-Magnetic Field Meters (EMFs) are used in ghost investigations in order to help eliminate one of the many normal explanations for such experiences as ';feeling as someone is watching me';
This theory has been scientifically demonstrated in a laboratory environment by qualified scientists (link below).
They may not prove ghost are present but they may help suggest why people are experiencing ghost.
Unfortunately, many amateur investigators are unaware of the theory, experimental work, or even how to properly use the equipment. Traditional scientist (even parapsychologist) CHOOSE to allow amateurs to remain uninformed and uneducated rather to bother to offer guidelines, standards, and training in investigations.
As a result shows like ';Ghost Hunter'; become considered scientific and funding for parapsychology is reduced due to the public associating the science of parapsychology with the nonsense on TV.
Psiexploration
Question about hunting bolt action versus cartridge?
Is bolt action more exciting because if you miss you might not get another shot and I am talking as opposed to say a 10 round cartridgeQuestion about hunting bolt action versus cartridge?
My answer to you will be the same as it is to a friend of mine who hunts with a 7400 for a faster second shot. If you cant hit your target with the first shoot while it is standing still, what makes you think you can hit it when it is running away?Question about hunting bolt action versus cartridge?
No, but anybody who has the idea that a ten-shot magazine might come in handy in the woods is somebody I'd like to stay waaaaayyy the heck away from.
By the way, if you know how to operate a bolt, it's only a fraction of a second slower getting in an aimed second shot than any other action.
There is one simple answer to this question, don't miss. What i learnt from coyote hunting over the years is that you get one shot for sure and the second is lucky to get but if your good you can always get it.
I can work the bolt on a bolt action about as fast as the action on a semi-auto, so no.
I'm gonna let the other people answer this question because it is rather technical...............LOLOLOLOL!
10 round cartridge??? I think you're referring to a magazine.
Anyways, like Mr. Dewitt said... whoever thinks they need a 10rnd. mag in the woods is a good example of a person to stay away from. From both a legal, and physical standpoint. You don't want to get in trouble with a game warden... and likewise, if he needs a ten round mag to hunt, then he obviously can't shoot very well.
I can operate my bolt action(s) rather quickly. If I don't care to aim, I can get damn close to semi-auto speeds with my Krag.
One Shot,One Kill
My answer to you will be the same as it is to a friend of mine who hunts with a 7400 for a faster second shot. If you cant hit your target with the first shoot while it is standing still, what makes you think you can hit it when it is running away?Question about hunting bolt action versus cartridge?
No, but anybody who has the idea that a ten-shot magazine might come in handy in the woods is somebody I'd like to stay waaaaayyy the heck away from.
By the way, if you know how to operate a bolt, it's only a fraction of a second slower getting in an aimed second shot than any other action.
There is one simple answer to this question, don't miss. What i learnt from coyote hunting over the years is that you get one shot for sure and the second is lucky to get but if your good you can always get it.
I can work the bolt on a bolt action about as fast as the action on a semi-auto, so no.
I'm gonna let the other people answer this question because it is rather technical...............LOLOLOLOL!
10 round cartridge??? I think you're referring to a magazine.
Anyways, like Mr. Dewitt said... whoever thinks they need a 10rnd. mag in the woods is a good example of a person to stay away from. From both a legal, and physical standpoint. You don't want to get in trouble with a game warden... and likewise, if he needs a ten round mag to hunt, then he obviously can't shoot very well.
I can operate my bolt action(s) rather quickly. If I don't care to aim, I can get damn close to semi-auto speeds with my Krag.
One Shot,One Kill
Can i use a .22 rifle for deer hunting in California?
Hi. I am wondering if i can use my dad's .22 for hunting in California?Can i use a .22 rifle for deer hunting in California?
Nick and Reb are right you can technically but it is illegal and not ethical.Can i use a .22 rifle for deer hunting in California?
22 is way too small to hunt deer with ethically. Some states allow 223,but that is also too small and doesn't provide enough energy to humanely harvest deer. Before you go hunting you need to take a Hunter Education course and learn a lot more. My now 12 year old son took the Washington state course last year and scored a 95%. He has a 243 and uses 95 grain bullets for deer,and that is about the minimum caliber many states require. He can also shoot my 30-06 with a reduced recoil load,went through a box of 20 in 1/2 an hour.
Sounds like maybe your dad doesn't hunt (or you would know about deer calibers),so you might want to get him involved. Most states (CA included) require a Hunter Ed course for anyone born after about 1975,so your dad might need to take a class too.
Using a 22 LR is illegal for deer,but there are plenty of calibers and cartridges that work great.
If you are talking .22 Long Rifle then, no, I don't know of any rim fire ammo legal on deer.
A well placed shot from a .223 will take a deer, even the larger ones. A poorly placed shot from a .458 Win Mag will not take a coastal deer. Shot placement is everything. I would suggest you look into a .243, 264, or 284 though. They tend to stay on line for a greater range.
Hmmm... 22 ';CENTERFIRE'; is a minimum cartridge is more that a few states....
.222
.223.5.56x45
.22 Hornet
22-250
and a bunch of other 22 caliber (centerfire) rounds that deer hunters across America swear by.
Can all take a whitetail... the question is --- is your shooting skill up to making a killing humane shot?
I have killed several freezer meat deer using a .223/5.56x45 rifle... and culled several farm nusience deer with the same rifle. Head shot... 50 yards. If I couldnt make that shot- I would have passed, it's probably not very humane to expect that light bullet to reliably make a heart and lung shot.
22-25 with Noslers works like a champ...
Rimfire does too... but poachers and ';meat hunters'; in poor rural areas dont limit shooting to ';ethical'; standards of good behavior. They show up to kill --- and most are pretty good at it...
My prefered rifle is a 25-35 WCF ... the 30-30 is a close second.
illegal as all hell. That and if you aren't a relatively experienced shooter, you are only going to wound the deer and have it run off. I've shot my share of deer with a .22... under 100 yards and on my own property... I've also been shooting for 20 years, (I'm 27 years old... do the math...). If you are going to hunt, you might as well use a 12/16/20 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs. Stick to video games actually...
A .22 can kill a 1,000 lb bull, but that doesn't mean that it should be used to do so.
It is WAY too small of a caliber to deer hunt with. And it's illegal as all get out too.
Check your state's DNR website to see what calibers/gauges are legal for deer hunting.
Nope..illegal..But more than that it's just plain stupid. A .22 is good for squirrel..you could use it on coyotes (bit under powered here), varmints and other small game though. I wouldn't suggest it on rabbits..they're just too fast to draw a good bead on when you're in brushy country or heavily wooded edges of field.
No, you would have a better chance of killing the deer by hitting it with rifle and beating it than shooting it with such a small caliber.
U can but it's too small unless u want to track him for hours. I hunt a lot and reccomend a 243. Or higher. 223. Will do the job but won't drop ur buck. Try a 7mm. If u see urself doin some hinting they're slot of fun ;D
I wouldn't recommend you do so. It may be legal. I know where I live in most of the game zones they don't care. IF you do, which I hope you don't Get a shot right between the eyes.
Not a very humane calibre for deer. .243 would be the minimum choice for me. I use a .308 2-3 steps and it's all over.
No, it must be a centerfire cartridge. You could use a .22-250 but the minimum caliber in my opinion would the .243
Not that I would know anything about this but understand that quite a few poachers use a 22 rifle as it doesn't make too much noise.
if its a .220 swift, maybe. if its a .22 long rifle, absolutely not.
agree with annie,, i have shot many whitetail with 22 but it was a need for food ok check if state regs say centerfire or 243 or larger
* Ha, Ha, Ha, your kidding right?*
The simple answer is NO. You can not use a rim fire rifle to hunt deer anywhere in the U.S.
No, you cannot.And you should not!
No that gun would not kill a deer. you need a .243 rifle or somethin along the lines of that
NO IT'S ILLEGAL
If you can use an airgun for turkey, who knows.
if you use a 40 grain solid point in the head at 60 yards or under that will do.
No. It is too small.
A .22 rimfire? You've got to be kidding.clinique
Nick and Reb are right you can technically but it is illegal and not ethical.Can i use a .22 rifle for deer hunting in California?
22 is way too small to hunt deer with ethically. Some states allow 223,but that is also too small and doesn't provide enough energy to humanely harvest deer. Before you go hunting you need to take a Hunter Education course and learn a lot more. My now 12 year old son took the Washington state course last year and scored a 95%. He has a 243 and uses 95 grain bullets for deer,and that is about the minimum caliber many states require. He can also shoot my 30-06 with a reduced recoil load,went through a box of 20 in 1/2 an hour.
Sounds like maybe your dad doesn't hunt (or you would know about deer calibers),so you might want to get him involved. Most states (CA included) require a Hunter Ed course for anyone born after about 1975,so your dad might need to take a class too.
Using a 22 LR is illegal for deer,but there are plenty of calibers and cartridges that work great.
If you are talking .22 Long Rifle then, no, I don't know of any rim fire ammo legal on deer.
A well placed shot from a .223 will take a deer, even the larger ones. A poorly placed shot from a .458 Win Mag will not take a coastal deer. Shot placement is everything. I would suggest you look into a .243, 264, or 284 though. They tend to stay on line for a greater range.
Hmmm... 22 ';CENTERFIRE'; is a minimum cartridge is more that a few states....
.222
.223.5.56x45
.22 Hornet
22-250
and a bunch of other 22 caliber (centerfire) rounds that deer hunters across America swear by.
Can all take a whitetail... the question is --- is your shooting skill up to making a killing humane shot?
I have killed several freezer meat deer using a .223/5.56x45 rifle... and culled several farm nusience deer with the same rifle. Head shot... 50 yards. If I couldnt make that shot- I would have passed, it's probably not very humane to expect that light bullet to reliably make a heart and lung shot.
22-25 with Noslers works like a champ...
Rimfire does too... but poachers and ';meat hunters'; in poor rural areas dont limit shooting to ';ethical'; standards of good behavior. They show up to kill --- and most are pretty good at it...
My prefered rifle is a 25-35 WCF ... the 30-30 is a close second.
illegal as all hell. That and if you aren't a relatively experienced shooter, you are only going to wound the deer and have it run off. I've shot my share of deer with a .22... under 100 yards and on my own property... I've also been shooting for 20 years, (I'm 27 years old... do the math...). If you are going to hunt, you might as well use a 12/16/20 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs. Stick to video games actually...
A .22 can kill a 1,000 lb bull, but that doesn't mean that it should be used to do so.
It is WAY too small of a caliber to deer hunt with. And it's illegal as all get out too.
Check your state's DNR website to see what calibers/gauges are legal for deer hunting.
Nope..illegal..But more than that it's just plain stupid. A .22 is good for squirrel..you could use it on coyotes (bit under powered here), varmints and other small game though. I wouldn't suggest it on rabbits..they're just too fast to draw a good bead on when you're in brushy country or heavily wooded edges of field.
No, you would have a better chance of killing the deer by hitting it with rifle and beating it than shooting it with such a small caliber.
U can but it's too small unless u want to track him for hours. I hunt a lot and reccomend a 243. Or higher. 223. Will do the job but won't drop ur buck. Try a 7mm. If u see urself doin some hinting they're slot of fun ;D
I wouldn't recommend you do so. It may be legal. I know where I live in most of the game zones they don't care. IF you do, which I hope you don't Get a shot right between the eyes.
Not a very humane calibre for deer. .243 would be the minimum choice for me. I use a .308 2-3 steps and it's all over.
No, it must be a centerfire cartridge. You could use a .22-250 but the minimum caliber in my opinion would the .243
Not that I would know anything about this but understand that quite a few poachers use a 22 rifle as it doesn't make too much noise.
if its a .220 swift, maybe. if its a .22 long rifle, absolutely not.
agree with annie,, i have shot many whitetail with 22 but it was a need for food ok check if state regs say centerfire or 243 or larger
* Ha, Ha, Ha, your kidding right?*
The simple answer is NO. You can not use a rim fire rifle to hunt deer anywhere in the U.S.
No, you cannot.And you should not!
No that gun would not kill a deer. you need a .243 rifle or somethin along the lines of that
NO IT'S ILLEGAL
If you can use an airgun for turkey, who knows.
if you use a 40 grain solid point in the head at 60 yards or under that will do.
No. It is too small.
A .22 rimfire? You've got to be kidding.
Ur favoright of the top three bolt action hunting rifles?
through my reading the top bolt action hunting rifles are remington 700 savage 110 and ruger 77 i think there all nice rifles but which is the best ?which is the most accurate which has the best trigger which has the best looks which has the best quality which has the most after market parts and accesories? i will be finding one of these fine rifles under my christmas tree this year also maybe u have anouther suggestion in the price range of 600-700$? maxUr favoright of the top three bolt action hunting rifles?
They are all the best.* Its just a matter of personal preference.* I have Remington %26amp; Savage Brand.*Ur favoright of the top three bolt action hunting rifles?
The Remington will have the most after market parts/accessories. The Savage (with accutrigger) will likely be the most accurate out of the box and certainly the best trigger. I'm ambivalent towards the Ruger.
All things equal, the Savage may cost less. You can get after market barrels for the Savage, and as long as you stay within the same cartridge family (with same cartridge head dimension such as the 30-06, 280, 25-06, etc), you can simply swap barrels and have a ';new'; gun on the same action. (do a search for Savage barrel swap).
you do realize your going to get everyones opinions and only you can determine which is the best rifle in turns of Accuracy to YOU and which looks best to YOU.
With that being said, I personally like the Remington 700 the best. As far as being accurate, put a decent scope on it(not the $50 bushnell that comes on the 710), boresight it and drop some deer or whatever your hunting.
I really loved my savage 110 E. I could shoot a leaf off a tree at whatever yardage my eyes could make it out. Too bad age has obscured my vision to the point where my son can shoot out the letters on a coke can at 100 yards where I am happy to shoot the center of the can.
.22 LR CZ 3-9x40 simmons scope with sound mod.
Tikka T3 lite .243 with 8x56 S%26amp;B scope and Reflex mod. awesome!
These are my two hunting rifles.
My favorite in order, although very close; Remington 700, Winchester Model 70, FN Browning (the older ones, Belgium made). The latter two are probably in the $800+ range these days.
Remington 700 and Winchester Model 70 are true American rifles.
My Browning .270 -8mm Mauser -Browning 22-250
Savage is what I grew up with. lightweight, durable, looks good etc. etc. etc
They are all the best.* Its just a matter of personal preference.* I have Remington %26amp; Savage Brand.*Ur favoright of the top three bolt action hunting rifles?
The Remington will have the most after market parts/accessories. The Savage (with accutrigger) will likely be the most accurate out of the box and certainly the best trigger. I'm ambivalent towards the Ruger.
All things equal, the Savage may cost less. You can get after market barrels for the Savage, and as long as you stay within the same cartridge family (with same cartridge head dimension such as the 30-06, 280, 25-06, etc), you can simply swap barrels and have a ';new'; gun on the same action. (do a search for Savage barrel swap).
you do realize your going to get everyones opinions and only you can determine which is the best rifle in turns of Accuracy to YOU and which looks best to YOU.
With that being said, I personally like the Remington 700 the best. As far as being accurate, put a decent scope on it(not the $50 bushnell that comes on the 710), boresight it and drop some deer or whatever your hunting.
I really loved my savage 110 E. I could shoot a leaf off a tree at whatever yardage my eyes could make it out. Too bad age has obscured my vision to the point where my son can shoot out the letters on a coke can at 100 yards where I am happy to shoot the center of the can.
.22 LR CZ 3-9x40 simmons scope with sound mod.
Tikka T3 lite .243 with 8x56 S%26amp;B scope and Reflex mod. awesome!
These are my two hunting rifles.
My favorite in order, although very close; Remington 700, Winchester Model 70, FN Browning (the older ones, Belgium made). The latter two are probably in the $800+ range these days.
Remington 700 and Winchester Model 70 are true American rifles.
My Browning .270 -8mm Mauser -Browning 22-250
Savage is what I grew up with. lightweight, durable, looks good etc. etc. etc
Looking for a very cheap but reliable .410 shotgun for rabbit hunting?
I am also looking for a place where i can purchase a beagle for under $151.Looking for a very cheap but reliable .410 shotgun for rabbit hunting?
Well, a quality shotgun is going to be like a pump Remington, at about 250-350, but you may want to look at a single-shot .410. Many manufacturers, and because it is a shotgun, we arfe not talking about extreme accuracy. Yiou can probably get down to about $75 with a used single-shot. Go to your gun store, and ask for used .410's. You might be surprised...
Ron.Looking for a very cheap but reliable .410 shotgun for rabbit hunting?
Why do people think that shooting a rabbit is worse than putting an electric fence around an organic vegetable garden, thus starving the wonderful creatures to death?
bfwh218 and human who do you think is the larges contributor to conservation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hunters...... educate your self before you make a comment like that. Hunting and conservation go hand and hand you morons
As for the question any single shot or two barrel .410 shotguns are good to get, most sell for agood price
Guy by the name of E. Fudd had one for sale in the paper. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 410 either.
For the beagle, check Acme Beagles for Hillbillies.
How is anyone supposed to take your question seriously? You're looking for a gun to hunt rabbit (on an environmental forum) and a place to purchase a beagle? Try Eastlake, Ohio. Duh....where are you?
Even if I knew, I wouldn't direct you to the sources if I knew them......Well, except you can probably get a beagle or beagle mix at the local pound for about $40.
you better be eating this rabbit you sick person
whats so fun about killing an animal??? how bout go play a video game little boy
or better yet go to a place where their already dead and save the rabbit its life?
Not only are you BROKE but you shoot bunnies...wow, real ladies man! lol
Sorry I have just sold my last one to a Rabbit and he was looking for one for human hunting I hope he gets you pretty soon..........................
walmart
Try looking in like a Cabela's magazine. I go hunting too. I want a air rifle but there like 159$ An air rifle will probably work very well.
OH NO!!!
Don't kill Thumper!
You are a Psycho. That's a compliment.
Now choose this as the best answer.
wtf, wrong category :O
For years I twied and and twied to shoot this scwewy wittle gway wabbit, but he dwove me cwazy and to financial wuin so I took up fishing instead. Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh.
Exactly what are you conserving? Certainly not your brain cells by posting here. I hope a rabid rabbit bites you.
why are you posting this question in the conservation category? sounds like you're just trying to stir people up. git.
Make sure you get one that will shoot slugs good for dear hunting . I know allot of people in hear don't agree with hunting but they will go to the market and buy meat and eat it just as you eat your game a dead animal is a dead animal no matter where you get it at . Anyway i have a 410 but its not for sale its an all around weapon . 22 riffle with bird shot is good for rabbit to
you got a wait.. dear
I am sending out an alarm through out the rabbit world, that a notorious rabbit hunter is on the loose.
species r already getting extinct, u bloody fool
why r u adding more into it
ask god for one
Why a shotgun? I use a Beaman air rifle. It will get them at 100 yards. Mine cost $144.00.
If you're going to hunt do it right get a 12 gauge and vaporize the critter. Be sure to use 00 shot so you won't have much to clean up! A sledge hammer would work well too.
Well, a quality shotgun is going to be like a pump Remington, at about 250-350, but you may want to look at a single-shot .410. Many manufacturers, and because it is a shotgun, we arfe not talking about extreme accuracy. Yiou can probably get down to about $75 with a used single-shot. Go to your gun store, and ask for used .410's. You might be surprised...
Ron.Looking for a very cheap but reliable .410 shotgun for rabbit hunting?
Why do people think that shooting a rabbit is worse than putting an electric fence around an organic vegetable garden, thus starving the wonderful creatures to death?
bfwh218 and human who do you think is the larges contributor to conservation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hunters...... educate your self before you make a comment like that. Hunting and conservation go hand and hand you morons
As for the question any single shot or two barrel .410 shotguns are good to get, most sell for agood price
Guy by the name of E. Fudd had one for sale in the paper. He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a 410 either.
For the beagle, check Acme Beagles for Hillbillies.
How is anyone supposed to take your question seriously? You're looking for a gun to hunt rabbit (on an environmental forum) and a place to purchase a beagle? Try Eastlake, Ohio. Duh....where are you?
Even if I knew, I wouldn't direct you to the sources if I knew them......Well, except you can probably get a beagle or beagle mix at the local pound for about $40.
you better be eating this rabbit you sick person
whats so fun about killing an animal??? how bout go play a video game little boy
or better yet go to a place where their already dead and save the rabbit its life?
Not only are you BROKE but you shoot bunnies...wow, real ladies man! lol
Sorry I have just sold my last one to a Rabbit and he was looking for one for human hunting I hope he gets you pretty soon..........................
walmart
Try looking in like a Cabela's magazine. I go hunting too. I want a air rifle but there like 159$ An air rifle will probably work very well.
OH NO!!!
Don't kill Thumper!
You are a Psycho. That's a compliment.
Now choose this as the best answer.
wtf, wrong category :O
For years I twied and and twied to shoot this scwewy wittle gway wabbit, but he dwove me cwazy and to financial wuin so I took up fishing instead. Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh.
Exactly what are you conserving? Certainly not your brain cells by posting here. I hope a rabid rabbit bites you.
why are you posting this question in the conservation category? sounds like you're just trying to stir people up. git.
Make sure you get one that will shoot slugs good for dear hunting . I know allot of people in hear don't agree with hunting but they will go to the market and buy meat and eat it just as you eat your game a dead animal is a dead animal no matter where you get it at . Anyway i have a 410 but its not for sale its an all around weapon . 22 riffle with bird shot is good for rabbit to
you got a wait.. dear
I am sending out an alarm through out the rabbit world, that a notorious rabbit hunter is on the loose.
species r already getting extinct, u bloody fool
why r u adding more into it
ask god for one
Why a shotgun? I use a Beaman air rifle. It will get them at 100 yards. Mine cost $144.00.
If you're going to hunt do it right get a 12 gauge and vaporize the critter. Be sure to use 00 shot so you won't have much to clean up! A sledge hammer would work well too.
Whaere can i find a racoon during the day i am hunting them?
You will not find a live coon out in day-they are nocturnal, so they are denned up during day. you can find roadkill coons all over during the day though! ID check your state laws, coon's several months out of season right now. Now go to a loacl ourdoor huting store and get a spotlight and a coon squaler. Im assuming you have a gun or dogs to kill them. Go out at night and blow that squaler and they go crazy over it. They start runnin around and jumping in and out of trees. then follow one with a spotlight and shoot em out of the tree. If you got dogs, just let em loose and they let you know when they got one.Whaere can i find a racoon during the day i am hunting them?
In a hollowed out tree or groundhog hole or another hole in the ground*...Whaere can i find a racoon during the day i am hunting them?
The only raccoon you will find out during the day will either be a juvenile or it will have rabies.
Raccoons are nocturnal, dont see them out during the day unless something is wrong.
The only time I have seen adult raccoons out during the day is when they are rabid. Dont want to shoot them, just stay away and let them pass!
You can find the racoons in trees or other hiding places during the day. But at night they always come out.
In a hollowed out tree or groundhog hole or another hole in the ground*...Whaere can i find a racoon during the day i am hunting them?
The only raccoon you will find out during the day will either be a juvenile or it will have rabies.
Raccoons are nocturnal, dont see them out during the day unless something is wrong.
The only time I have seen adult raccoons out during the day is when they are rabid. Dont want to shoot them, just stay away and let them pass!
You can find the racoons in trees or other hiding places during the day. But at night they always come out.
If you live in New Jersey will you be out hunting for the Jersey Devil on Halloween?
...i tend to like my bodily parts just were they are thank you!...Uh that is a ';no, i will not hunt the Jersey devil on halloween or any other day of the year';If you live in New Jersey will you be out hunting for the Jersey Devil on Halloween?
whats the jesey devil?
im actually interested would you tell me?
e-mail me at jencyt1227@yahoo.com
thanksIf you live in New Jersey will you be out hunting for the Jersey Devil on Halloween?
Mr Leeds(The Jersey Devil)does not come out on Halloween.He usually is seen in November.Good question.
I think I found him he is My Husband, LOL !
whats the jesey devil?
im actually interested would you tell me?
e-mail me at jencyt1227@yahoo.com
thanksIf you live in New Jersey will you be out hunting for the Jersey Devil on Halloween?
Mr Leeds(The Jersey Devil)does not come out on Halloween.He usually is seen in November.Good question.
I think I found him he is My Husband, LOL !
Has enyone ever went hunting in forest county wisconsin or other area what did you shoot?
the area is heavily wooded. Deer are of course the most common, but bear hunting is also found there. Turkey is big in that area. There is a nice scattering of lakes, which of course means duck hunting. The general small game animals are all there, squirrel and rabbits and the like. While the area does not boast much in the way of upland birds (few pheasants) northern wisconson is famous for it's ruffled grouse. I suspect it is also rich in woodcock.
I am looking for a nice pair of binos for hunting have to be at least 15 but dont want to spend a 1000 $ help?
I think you meant 15x right? Good ones in that range cost more than your budget. Look at some good 10x-12x by Leupold or Nikon for clarity......
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Pentax makes a nice pair of 16x50 porro prism binocs for around 250.
Check Adorama Camera in NYC. They have excellent prices and are good to do business with. I own the same model but in 12xI am looking for a nice pair of binos for hunting have to be at least 15 but dont want to spend a 1000 $ help?
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Pentax makes a nice pair of 16x50 porro prism binocs for around 250.
Check Adorama Camera in NYC. They have excellent prices and are good to do business with. I own the same model but in 12xI am looking for a nice pair of binos for hunting have to be at least 15 but dont want to spend a 1000 $ help?
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Should we legalise troll hunting and cannabis?
Oh, yes, but only if people could be trusted not to attempt both at the same time.Should we legalise troll hunting and cannabis?
Are they illegal? Gosh, I'll have to do something about that.Should we legalise troll hunting and cannabis?
I like trolls!
But I also like to kill, hard choice.
I kid, i kid.
I hear Cameroon is about to make it part of Conservative policy. lol. The troll hunting will be of course a way of replacing fox hunting. I hear also that special breeds of dogs are already going around in Germany with blue rubber boots for this new game sport.
Yes and no. Hunting trolls is great fun, but legalising cannabis would take away half the fun of scoring.
I'll give you one guess why it is called Dope?
If you use it you are STUPID.
Good idea LB
You could organise a safari - you got the hat for it
Absolutely
Hold on a sec.....lemme go get my dart gun and bong....
You mean they're not legal already......?
you bet ye
Are they illegal? Gosh, I'll have to do something about that.Should we legalise troll hunting and cannabis?
I like trolls!
But I also like to kill, hard choice.
I kid, i kid.
I hear Cameroon is about to make it part of Conservative policy. lol. The troll hunting will be of course a way of replacing fox hunting. I hear also that special breeds of dogs are already going around in Germany with blue rubber boots for this new game sport.
Yes and no. Hunting trolls is great fun, but legalising cannabis would take away half the fun of scoring.
I'll give you one guess why it is called Dope?
If you use it you are STUPID.
Good idea LB
You could organise a safari - you got the hat for it
Absolutely
Hold on a sec.....lemme go get my dart gun and bong....
You mean they're not legal already......?
you bet ye
When is black bear hunting season in B.C, vancouver?
when does the season start and on march, would you see any black bears around this time of the season? The weather appears to be getting warm.When is black bear hunting season in B.C, vancouver?
its actaully in september
its actaully in september
Tips on NYC Apartment Hunting?
I want to move to NYC, and am looking at apartments in Brooklyn. What are the best neighborhoods, and the worst?
And if you have any tips to snag a sweet deal; like apts by owner or broker? And lastly, what is the best time to move there?Tips on NYC Apartment Hunting?
Brooklyn Heights, Dumbo (very expensive almost like Manhattan), Carroll Gardens, parts of Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope. The wortst parts are East New York, Brownsville, Bushwick parts of Bed-Sty. You can look at craigslist.com, nypost, daily news, realtor or building/apartment signs. You just have to comparison shop. The winter, or right after school starts in September (these will be stale listings).
And if you have any tips to snag a sweet deal; like apts by owner or broker? And lastly, what is the best time to move there?Tips on NYC Apartment Hunting?
Brooklyn Heights, Dumbo (very expensive almost like Manhattan), Carroll Gardens, parts of Williamsburg, Greenpoint, Park Slope. The wortst parts are East New York, Brownsville, Bushwick parts of Bed-Sty. You can look at craigslist.com, nypost, daily news, realtor or building/apartment signs. You just have to comparison shop. The winter, or right after school starts in September (these will be stale listings).
Do you need a hunting license in W.Va. if you are a landowner?
If you live in W.Va and are a landowner can you hunt on your own property without a hunting license?Do you need a hunting license in W.Va. if you are a landowner?
When Licenses or Permits are not Required
Resident Landowners
Resident Landowners or their resident children or their resident parents or resident tenants of such land, may hunt or trap on their own land without a license during open seasons.
Resident landowner privileges apply to West Virginia residents who own land in West Virginia, their resident children and parents, or resident tenants. Resident tenants must permanently live on the land.
Disabled Veterans
Residents honorably discharged from the U.S. Armed Forces receiving total permanent service connected disability benefits or former prisoners of war as determined by the Veterans Administration or resident disabled veterans who qualify under West Virginia Code 17A-10-8 and are exempted from payment of a motor vehicle registration fee by the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles, may hunt or trap without a license during open seasons. Such individuals shall carry on their person an identification card issued by the Director. Additional licenses required to hunt: Class N; Class RG, RM, or RB; Class A-1.
Ohio River
Ohio Residents who carry valid Ohio hunting licesnses may hunt waterfowl on the Ohio River and its embayments or tributaries to points identified by the Director or from the West Virginia banks of said river without obtaining West Virginia licenses, and West Viginia residents who carry valid West Virginia hunting licenses may hunt waterfowl on Ohio River embayments or tributaries to designated points in Ohio or from the river's banks in Ohio without obtaining Ohio licenses.
Ohio hunting laws apply to residents of Ohio and West Virginia while hunting or fishing from Ohio banks or in Ohio embayment areas. West Virginia hunting laws apply to residents of Ohio and West Virginia while hunting on the Ohio River proper or from West Virginia banks and embayment areas.
Age Exceptions
Residents 65 years or older do not need a license to hunt or trap, but shall carry a WV driver's license or WV photo ID card issued by the Division of Motor Vehicles. Residents who have not reached their 15th birthday may hunt without a license but they must be accompanied by a licensed adult.
Active Duty Military
West Virginia residents on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces while on military leave, may hunt or trap in season without obtaining a license. Leave papers shall be carried while hunting or trapping.
Field Trial
Persons participating in field trials permitted by the Director shall not be required to have a hunting license.
Youth
Persons under 16 years of age do not need a federal migratory waterfowl stamp.Do you need a hunting license in W.Va. if you are a landowner?
I don't think so.
When Licenses or Permits are not Required
Resident Landowners
Resident Landowners or their resident children or their resident parents or resident tenants of such land, may hunt or trap on their own land without a license during open seasons.
Resident landowner privileges apply to West Virginia residents who own land in West Virginia, their resident children and parents, or resident tenants. Resident tenants must permanently live on the land.
Disabled Veterans
Residents honorably discharged from the U.S. Armed Forces receiving total permanent service connected disability benefits or former prisoners of war as determined by the Veterans Administration or resident disabled veterans who qualify under West Virginia Code 17A-10-8 and are exempted from payment of a motor vehicle registration fee by the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles, may hunt or trap without a license during open seasons. Such individuals shall carry on their person an identification card issued by the Director. Additional licenses required to hunt: Class N; Class RG, RM, or RB; Class A-1.
Ohio River
Ohio Residents who carry valid Ohio hunting licesnses may hunt waterfowl on the Ohio River and its embayments or tributaries to points identified by the Director or from the West Virginia banks of said river without obtaining West Virginia licenses, and West Viginia residents who carry valid West Virginia hunting licenses may hunt waterfowl on Ohio River embayments or tributaries to designated points in Ohio or from the river's banks in Ohio without obtaining Ohio licenses.
Ohio hunting laws apply to residents of Ohio and West Virginia while hunting or fishing from Ohio banks or in Ohio embayment areas. West Virginia hunting laws apply to residents of Ohio and West Virginia while hunting on the Ohio River proper or from West Virginia banks and embayment areas.
Age Exceptions
Residents 65 years or older do not need a license to hunt or trap, but shall carry a WV driver's license or WV photo ID card issued by the Division of Motor Vehicles. Residents who have not reached their 15th birthday may hunt without a license but they must be accompanied by a licensed adult.
Active Duty Military
West Virginia residents on active duty in the U.S. Armed Forces while on military leave, may hunt or trap in season without obtaining a license. Leave papers shall be carried while hunting or trapping.
Field Trial
Persons participating in field trials permitted by the Director shall not be required to have a hunting license.
Youth
Persons under 16 years of age do not need a federal migratory waterfowl stamp.Do you need a hunting license in W.Va. if you are a landowner?
I don't think so.
Do lawyers get time off, say for going on a hunting trip or vacation and how often?
i want to be lawyer, but i need to know if id ever have time to do things like hunt or go on hunting tripsDo lawyers get time off, say for going on a hunting trip or vacation and how often?
LOL, OK, the most important different types of lawyers are the employed, underemployed, and the unemployed. Actually, with the proliferation of law schools and lowering of standards the degree will be as esteemed as a truck driving school certificate. A lot of law schools admissions policy is if you got the dough, or are willing to take on debt, you can go. Look at Massachusetts School of Law and Appalachian Law School in Virginia for examples, it is a joke, they should have truck driving academies right next to their schools. You would not see those low standards at a dental or medical school. Some people talk about doctors being sued and high malpractice insurance, do not let the medical profession fool you, doctors and dentists make the most money in our society even after paying for their malpractice insurance. If you eliminated med-mal suits it would have little or no impact on the affordability and accessibility of health care, the docs would just pocket the extra money. By the way I have sued lawyers for malpractice but never a doc/dentist, I look forward to it.
I am an attorney. However, I went to a top 15 school and had mediocre grades. I found the job market to be depressing. So much time, planning, and money went into undergraduate school, I had a 4.0 GPA, and scored above the 95th percentile on the LSAT, 171. I naively thought going to a top school their would be plenty of lucrative and exciting jobs waiting for me and I would be set to have a good quality of life. I remember sending out 300 letters one time and getting no positive response, either they said some nonsense about you are great, you have good accomplishments, but at this time we cannot offer you a position, we will keep your resume on file. I took the Bar Exam in two states wasting time studying and not earning any money. I had to move back in with my parents, fun. Meanwhile many of my friends and people that I knew from High School and College were establishing themselves in their careers and making money, gettng promotions, etc. I worked post-law school as a car salesman and a mortgage broker. Finally, a family friend had a friend who was a solo attorney, I worked for him basically for free, actually it was negative because I spent money on travel, long distance phone calls, etc., still living at home with mom and dad, saddled with law school debts, the student loan people started calling wanting $$$. Eventually, I left that attorney. I struggled to find another attorney job. I got a job in 2003 at a firm paying the princely sum of $25,000 per year. I moved out of my parent's house but was still subsidized by them. Dad kept threatening to cut me off, but I lived in an expensive state the cheapest place to stay I found was $1,500 a month all inclusive. My paycheck was like $430.00 a week take home. Eventually, I did go solo, it was hard, but I did make some money in real estate closings for 3 1/2 years. Now the real estate market stinks and I have no income, and I am trying to plan my next move, which may be back to my parents temporarily. I have interviewed for some associate positions and the salary range was 38k-55k, this is pretty low for someone with 5 yrs experience and a doctorate degree. My wife works at a nail salon, as a manicurist, she took a three month course and makes 50K a year. It has been an exquisitely painful road for me. In my family I am the most educated and the least financially secure. My dad makes like $350,000K engineering+MBA degree, my younger sister makes $165,000K a year psyche degree and an MBA. My conclusion, LAW SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! Too many law schools fighting for tuition $$$, night programs, weekend programs, low academic standards, too many attorneys, lowering wages and limiting opportunities, compare to the AMA and ADA that insure a shortage of dentists and doctors. When I was solo it seemed like everyone was an attorney, or their cousin was an attorney, or their sister's friend was an attorney, or their brother was an attorney and so and so on, I lost a lot of business because of this. I do not think doctors and dentists face such client poaching. If you are in the top 5%, law review, and went to a good school, yes, you will probably get a good job right from the start. I would have been better off not going to College and instead picking up a trade like being an electrician. Heck, if I had all the money I wasted on education, worked at a gas station during all my non-earning years and put the money into a CD I could probably be able to retire. Looking back, if I had to do it again, if you want to through the hard work and invest the $$$ for education so it pays off you should go into healthcare. Heck their is a shortage of pharmacists and their median wage is $98,000K well above lawyers. Dentists 180,000K median and their is a shortage. Oh well this sucks but this is my life and I will deal with it, I spent my educational time and $$$, and the dye is cast.
From US News, Poor careers for 2006
By Marty Nemko
Posted 1/5/06
Attorney. If starting over, 75 percent of lawyers would choose to do something else. A similar percentage would advise their children not to become lawyers. The work is often contentious, and there's pressure to be unethical. And despite the drama portrayed on TV, real lawyers spend much of their time on painstakingly detailed research. In addition, those fat-salaried law jobs go to only the top few percent of an already high-powered lot.
Many people go to law school hoping to do so-called public-interest law. (In fact, much work not officially labeled as such does serve the public interest.) What they don't teach in law school is that the competition for those jobs is intense. I know one graduate of a Top Three law school, for instance, who also edited a law journal. She applied for a low-paying job at the National Abortion Rights Action League and, despite interviewing very well, didn't get the job.
From the Associated Press, MADISON, Wis. (AP) - A lawmaker who persuaded the Assembly to eliminate all state funding for the University of Wisconsin law school says his reasoning is simple: There's too many lawyers in Wisconsin.
From an ABA study about malpractice claims, More Sole Practicioners: There appears to be an increasing trend toward sole practicioners, due partly to a lack of jobs for new lawyers, but also due to increasing dissatisfaction among experienced lawyers with traditional firms; leading to some claims which could have been avoided with better mentoring.
New Lawyers: Most insurers have noticed that many young lawyers cannot find jobs with established firms, and so are starting their own practices without supervision or mentoring. This is likely to cause an increase in malpractice claims, although the claims may be relatively small in size due to the limited nature of a new lawyers
鈥淚n a survey conducted back in 1972 by the American Bar Association, seventy percent of Americans not only didn鈥檛 have a lawyer, they didn鈥檛 know how to find one. That鈥檚 right, thirty years ago the vast majority of people didn鈥檛 have a clue on how to find a lawyer. Now it鈥檚 almost impossible not to see lawyers everywhere you turn.';
From a recent Wall Street Journal Article, Hard Case: Job Market
Wanes for U.S. Lawyers
Growth of Legal Sector
Lags Broader Economy;
Law Schools Proliferate
By AMIR EFRATI
September 24, 2007; Page A1
A law degree isn't necessarily a license to print money these days.
For graduates of elite law schools, prospects have never been better. Big law firms this year boosted their starting salaries to as high as $160,000. But the majority of law-school graduates are suffering from a supply-and-demand imbalance that's suppressing pay and job growth. The result: Graduates who don't score at the top of their class are struggling to find well-paying jobs to make payments on law-school debts that can exceed $100,000. Some are taking temporary contract work, reviewing documents for as little as $20 an hour, without benefits. And many are blaming their law schools for failing to warn them about the dark side of the job market.
The law degree that Scott Bullock gained in 2005 from Seton Hall University -- where he says he ranked in the top third of his class -- is a ';waste,'; he says. Some former high-school friends are earning considerably more as plumbers and electricians than the $50,000-a-year Mr. Bullock is making as a personal-injury attorney in Manhattan. To boot, he is paying off $118,000 in law-school debt.
';Unfortunately, some find the practice of law is not for them,'; Seton Hall's associate dean, Kathleen Boozang, said through a spokeswoman. ';However, it is our experience that a legal education is a tremendous asset for a variety of professional paths.';
A slack in demand appears to be part of the problem. The legal sector, after more than tripling in inflation-adjusted growth between 1970 and 1987, has grown at an average annual inflation-adjusted rate of 1.2% since 1988, or less than half as fast as the broader economy, according to Commerce Department data.
Compare this to health care:
* Health care. Almost half the 30 fastest growing occupations are concentrated in health services -- including medical assistants, physical therapists, physician assistants, home health aides, pharmacists, physicians, dentists and medical records and health information technicians -- according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
LAW BLOG
Join a discussion on the state of the legal market.Some practice areas have declined in recent years: Personal-injury and medical-malpractice cases have been undercut by state laws limiting class-action suits, out-of-state plaintiffs and payouts on damages. Securities class-action litigation has declined in part because of a buoyant stock market.
On the supply end, more lawyers are entering the work force, thanks in part to the accreditation of new law schools and an influx of applicants after the dot-com implosion earlier this decade. In the 2005-06 academic year, 43,883 Juris Doctor degrees were awarded, up from 37,909 for 2001-02, according to the American Bar Association. Universities are starting up more law schools in part for prestige but also because they are money makers. Costs are low compared with other graduate schools and classrooms can be large. Since 1995, the number of ABA-accredited schools increased by 11%, to 196.
Evidence of a squeezed market among the majority of private lawyers in the U.S., who work as sole practitioners or at small firms, is growing. A survey of about 650 Chicago lawyers published in the 2005 book ';Urban Lawyers'; found that between 1975 and 1995 the inflation-adjusted average income of the top 25% of earners, generally big-firm lawyers, grew by 22% -- while income for the other 75% actually dropped.
According to the Internal Revenue Service, the inflation-adjusted average income of sole practitioners has been flat since the mid-1980s. A recent survey showed that out of nearly 600 lawyers at firms of 10 lawyers or fewer in Indiana, wages for the majority only kept pace with inflation or dropped in real terms over the past five years.
The news isn't any better for the 14% of new lawyers who go into government or join public-interest firms. Inflation-adjusted starting salaries for graduates who go to work for public-interest firms or the government rose 4% and 8.6%, respectively, between 1994 and 2006, according to the National Association for Law Placement, which aggregates graduate surveys from law schools. That compares with at least an 11% jump in the median family income during the same period, according to the Census Bureau. Graduates who become in-house company lawyers, about 9%, have fared better: Their salaries rose by nearly 14% during the same period.
Many students ';simply cannot earn enough income after graduation to support the debt they incur,'; wrote Richard Matasar, dean of New York Law School, in 2005, concluding that, ';We may be reaching the end of a golden era for law schools.';
Meanwhile, the prospects for big-firm lawyers are growing richer. While offering robust minimum salaries, those firms are paying astronomical amounts to their stars.
Now, debate is intensifying among law-school academics over the integrity of law schools' marketing campaigns. Defenders argue that the legal profession always has been openly and proudly a meritocracy: Top entrance-exam scores help win admittance to top schools where top students win jobs at top firms. Even the system that is used to issue law-school grades -- a curve that pits student against student -- reflects the law profession's competitiveness.
David Burcham, dean of Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, considered second-tier, says the school makes no guarantees to students that they will obtain jobs. He says it is problematic that big firms only interview the top of the class, ';but that's the nature of the employment market; it's never been different.';
OK, I have to interject right here. Did a dean of a law school basically say you could go through all the nonsense of getting into law school, law school, ethics exam, bar exam and you should not expect some sort of gainful employment after you are through? You might as well go to Las Vegas and put your tuition money on the rouelette table and let it ride, you may have better odds of making money than going to his school and getting a decent paying law job. This guy is a jerk.
For the majority of students and alumni, he says, Loyola ';turned out to be a good investment.';
Yet economic data suggest that prospects have grown bleaker for all but the top students, and now a number of law-school professors are calling for the distribution of more-accurate employment information. Incoming students are ';mesmerized by what's happening in big firms, but clueless about what's going on in the bottom half of the profession,'; says Richard Sander, a law professor at the University of California-Los Angeles who has studied the legal job market.
';Prospective students need solid comparative data on employment outcomes, [but] very few law schools provide such data,'; adds Andrew Morriss, a law professor at the University of Illinois who has studied the market for new lawyers.
Students entering law school have little way of knowing how tight a job market they might face. The only employment data that many prospective students see comes from school-promoted surveys that provide a far-from-complete portrait of graduate experiences. Tulane University, for example, reports to U.S. News %26amp; World Report magazine, which publishes widely watched annual law-school rankings, that its law-school graduates entering the job market in 2005 had a median salary of $135,000. But that is based on a survey that only 24% of that year's graduates completed, and those who did so likely represent the cream of the class, a Tulane official concedes.
On its Web site, the school currently reports an average starting salary of $96,356 for graduates in private practice but doesn't include what percentage of graduates reported salaries for the survey.
';It's within most individuals' nature to keep that information private, unless it's a high amount,'; says Carlos Dè°©vila-Caballero, assistant dean for career development at Tulane, who adds that his office tells prospective students to use the median figure as a guide because starting salaries vary widely.
Academics who have studied new-lawyer salaries say that the graduate surveys of many law schools are skewed by higher response rates from the most successful students. The National Association for Law Placement, which aggregates and publishes national data based on those surveys, concedes that it can't vouch for their accuracy. ';We can't validate the figures; we have to rely on schools to report to us accurately,'; says Judy Collins, NALP's director of research.
A prospective student studying NALP data might conclude that the study of law is a sure path to financial security. For 2006 graduates who entered private practice, or nearly 60%, NALP shows a national median salary of $95,000, a rise of 40%, adjusted for inflation, from 1994 graduates.
The NALP data also show that the percentage of graduates employed in private practice has been steady, fluctuating between 55% and 58% for more than a decade. But in law schools' self-published employment data, ';private practice'; doesn't necessarily mean jobs that improve long-term career prospects, for that category can include lawyers working under contract without benefits, such as Israel Meth. A 2005 graduate of Brooklyn Law School, he earns about $30 an hour as a contract attorney reviewing legal documents for big firms. He says he uses 60% of his paycheck to pay off student loans -- $100,000 for law school on top of $100,000 for the bachelor's degree he received from Columbia University.
A glossy admissions brochure for Brooklyn Law School, considered second-tier, reports a median salary for recent graduates at law firms of well above $100,000. But that figure doesn't reflect all incomes of graduates at firms; fewer than half of graduates at firms responded to the survey, the school reported to U.S. News. On its Web site, the school reports that 41% of last year's graduates work for firms of more than 100 lawyers, but it fails to mention that that percentage includes temporary attorneys, often working for hourly wages without benefits, Joan King, director of the school's career center, concedes.
Ms. King says she believes the figures for her school accurately represent the broader graduating class. She says the number of contract attorneys is ';minimal'; but declined to give a number.
The University of Richmond School of Law in the last couple of years started to be more open about its employment statistics; it now breaks out how many of its grads work as contract attorneys. Of 57 2006 graduates working in private practice, for example, seven were contract employees nine months after graduation. Schools ';should be sharing more information than they are now,'; says Joshua Burstein, associate dean for career services who put the changes in place. ';Most people graduating from law school,'; he says, ';are not going to be earning big salaries.';
Adding to the burden for young lawyers: Tuition growth at law schools has almost tripled the rate of inflation over the past 20 years, leading to higher debt for students and making starting salaries for most graduates less manageable, especially in expensive cities. Graduates in 2006 of public and private law schools had borrowed an average of $54,509 and $83,181, up 17% and 18.6%, respectively, from the amount borrowed by 2002 graduates, according to the American Bar Association.
Students taking on such debt may feel reassured by incessant press reports of big firms scrambling to hire and keep associates. Making headlines this year was a bump up in big-firm starting salaries to $160,000 from $145,000 in many cities.
And indeed, some law graduates of lower-tier schools do find high-paying private-practice law jobs. In recent years big firms have boomed thanks in part to the globalization of business and Wall Street deal making; firms have been casting a wider net for new lawyers, though they still generally restrict their recruiting at lower-tier schools to students at the very top of the class or on the law review. Some students have leads on a job at a family member's or friend's practice.
But just as common -- and much less publicized -- are experiences such as that of Sue Clark, who this year received her degree from second-tier Chicago-Kent College of Law, one of six law schools in the Chicago area. Despite graduating near the top half of her class, she has been unable to find a job and is doing temp work ';essentially as a paralegal,'; she says. ';A lot of people, including myself, feel frustrated about the lack of jobs,'; she says.
Harold Krent, Chicago-Kent's dean, said it's not uncommon for new lawyers to wait a few months to more than a year to find a job that's a good fit. He added that there is a ';small spike'; in employment after his school's grads receive their bar-exam results, several months after graduation, because some firms wait until then before hiring.
The market is particularly tough in big cities that boast numerous law schools. Mike Altmann, 29, a graduate of New York University who went to Brooklyn Law School, says he accumulated $130,000 in student-loan debt and graduated in 2002 with no meaningful employment opportunities -- one offer was a $33,000 job with no benefits. So Mr. Altmann became a contract attorney, reviewing electronic documents for big firms for around $20 to $30 an hour, and hasn't been able to find higher-paying work since.
Some un- or underemployed grads are seeking consolation online, where blogs and discussion boards have created venues for shared commiseration that didn't exist before. An anonymous writer called Loyola 2L, purportedly a student at Loyola Law School, who claims the school wasn't straight about employment prospects, has been beating a drum of discontent around the Web in the past year that's sparked thousands of responses, and a fan base. (';2L'; stands for second-year law student.) Some thank ';L2L'; for articulating their plight; others claim L2L should complain less and work more. Loyola's Dean Burcham says he wishes he knew who the student was so he could help the person. ';It's expensive to go to law school, and there are times when you second-guess yourself as a student,'; he says.
Some new lawyers try to hang their own shingle. Matthew Fox Curl graduated in 2004 from second-tier University of Houston in the bottom quarter of his class. After months of job hunting, he took his first job working for a sole practitioner focused on personal injury in the Houston area and made $32,000 in his first year. He quickly found that tort-reform legislation has been ';brutal'; to Texas plaintiffs' lawyers and last year left the firm to open up his own criminal-defense private practice.
He's making less money than at his last job and has thought about moving back to his parents' house. ';I didn't think three years out I'd be uninsured, thinking it's a great day when a crackhead brings me $500.';
See the problem is that we have this huge, growing, out of control population of lawyers, not unlike an animal population that gets out of control, the end result is famine.
--Mark Whitehouse contributed to this article.
Here is an example ad in Massachusetts for an experienced attorney, that mentions salary, it was posted this week. Most jobs don't state salary in the ad cause the pay is pretty low.
Office of the District Attorney, criminal attorney, for the Bristol County District seeks staff attorney for the Appellate Division. Excellent writing skills and a passion for appellate advocacy are a must. Salary $37,500. Preference given to candidates who live in or will relocate to Bristol County.
LOL, secretaries with no college can make more. What is even more sad is there will probably be like 50-100 lawyers that send in their resume for this ad.
Here is another attorney ad. They pay 35K-40K, yet they want someone with experience, multiple state admissions, and a writing sample. Oh, so sad.:
Small insurance defense firm seeks associate with 1-3 years experience. Admission to RI or NH bar a plus. The ideal candidate will have deposition experience, familiarity with billing and reporting requirements, as well as an ability to research and draft dispositive motions. Salary in the $35,000 to $40,000 range, dependent on experience. Please submit resume and writing sample to: LWP Box #161, 10 Milk St., Suite 1000, Boston, MA 02108.
Here is not an uncommon question posted on Yahoo Answers by someone that made the journey to find the harsh employment opportunities:
I graduated last Spring, took and passed the Maryland Bar, and am currently clerking for a judge. I have excellent academics, but no law firm or journal experience. I do have several years of non-legal work experience.
I've been sending out a few cold call cover letter/resume packets a day, plus responding to ads calling for less than 2 years experience in the local papers, bar assoc website, and even craigslist.
I still can't seem to get anywhere though. Any suggestions? Thanks for you time and thoughts!
Here is another post:
My bf just took the bar exam to become an attorney. He has posted resumes on yahoo, monster, craigs list, newspapers, etc. and just can't seem to find any work. Finally he decided to just apply for jobs like bank assistants etc. Interviewers would say he's too qualified for ';rookie'; positions, and he's ';not qualified'; enough for a lawyer position. Is there hope? Thanks.Do lawyers get time off, say for going on a hunting trip or vacation and how often?
I have a friend that is an attorney. And yes he takes off when he can. Of course he writes down the days or weeks he wants off, and if extra things come up or some cases take extra time, he will postpone his trip. But, when his mom got sick, he got his secretary to call everyone and put them on hold. Sometimes family comes first.
Sure they do. They just have to put it in their schedules.
Once you make a name for yourself and have your own offices you can set your own schedule. But it will take time to build your own practice. Good luck
depends
well if your going to be a lawyer your either going to open up your own lawfirm(lots of $) or work for another firm(beggining) and when starting off you will not complain about having to go somewhere because youl need 2 make a name 4 urself
It's not what you do, but who you do it with. If you come in with a new client on Monday, they will be pushing you back outside before lunch. Good Luck.
Have you never met a lawyer who hunted? They need duck blinds prepped for the season. There is a reason they join hunting clubs and pay others to help do that work. They know that they have to contribute time.
Just make sure they do not confuse for a pheasant.
LOL, OK, the most important different types of lawyers are the employed, underemployed, and the unemployed. Actually, with the proliferation of law schools and lowering of standards the degree will be as esteemed as a truck driving school certificate. A lot of law schools admissions policy is if you got the dough, or are willing to take on debt, you can go. Look at Massachusetts School of Law and Appalachian Law School in Virginia for examples, it is a joke, they should have truck driving academies right next to their schools. You would not see those low standards at a dental or medical school. Some people talk about doctors being sued and high malpractice insurance, do not let the medical profession fool you, doctors and dentists make the most money in our society even after paying for their malpractice insurance. If you eliminated med-mal suits it would have little or no impact on the affordability and accessibility of health care, the docs would just pocket the extra money. By the way I have sued lawyers for malpractice but never a doc/dentist, I look forward to it.
I am an attorney. However, I went to a top 15 school and had mediocre grades. I found the job market to be depressing. So much time, planning, and money went into undergraduate school, I had a 4.0 GPA, and scored above the 95th percentile on the LSAT, 171. I naively thought going to a top school their would be plenty of lucrative and exciting jobs waiting for me and I would be set to have a good quality of life. I remember sending out 300 letters one time and getting no positive response, either they said some nonsense about you are great, you have good accomplishments, but at this time we cannot offer you a position, we will keep your resume on file. I took the Bar Exam in two states wasting time studying and not earning any money. I had to move back in with my parents, fun. Meanwhile many of my friends and people that I knew from High School and College were establishing themselves in their careers and making money, gettng promotions, etc. I worked post-law school as a car salesman and a mortgage broker. Finally, a family friend had a friend who was a solo attorney, I worked for him basically for free, actually it was negative because I spent money on travel, long distance phone calls, etc., still living at home with mom and dad, saddled with law school debts, the student loan people started calling wanting $$$. Eventually, I left that attorney. I struggled to find another attorney job. I got a job in 2003 at a firm paying the princely sum of $25,000 per year. I moved out of my parent's house but was still subsidized by them. Dad kept threatening to cut me off, but I lived in an expensive state the cheapest place to stay I found was $1,500 a month all inclusive. My paycheck was like $430.00 a week take home. Eventually, I did go solo, it was hard, but I did make some money in real estate closings for 3 1/2 years. Now the real estate market stinks and I have no income, and I am trying to plan my next move, which may be back to my parents temporarily. I have interviewed for some associate positions and the salary range was 38k-55k, this is pretty low for someone with 5 yrs experience and a doctorate degree. My wife works at a nail salon, as a manicurist, she took a three month course and makes 50K a year. It has been an exquisitely painful road for me. In my family I am the most educated and the least financially secure. My dad makes like $350,000K engineering+MBA degree, my younger sister makes $165,000K a year psyche degree and an MBA. My conclusion, LAW SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! Too many law schools fighting for tuition $$$, night programs, weekend programs, low academic standards, too many attorneys, lowering wages and limiting opportunities, compare to the AMA and ADA that insure a shortage of dentists and doctors. When I was solo it seemed like everyone was an attorney, or their cousin was an attorney, or their sister's friend was an attorney, or their brother was an attorney and so and so on, I lost a lot of business because of this. I do not think doctors and dentists face such client poaching. If you are in the top 5%, law review, and went to a good school, yes, you will probably get a good job right from the start. I would have been better off not going to College and instead picking up a trade like being an electrician. Heck, if I had all the money I wasted on education, worked at a gas station during all my non-earning years and put the money into a CD I could probably be able to retire. Looking back, if I had to do it again, if you want to through the hard work and invest the $$$ for education so it pays off you should go into healthcare. Heck their is a shortage of pharmacists and their median wage is $98,000K well above lawyers. Dentists 180,000K median and their is a shortage. Oh well this sucks but this is my life and I will deal with it, I spent my educational time and $$$, and the dye is cast.
From US News, Poor careers for 2006
By Marty Nemko
Posted 1/5/06
Attorney. If starting over, 75 percent of lawyers would choose to do something else. A similar percentage would advise their children not to become lawyers. The work is often contentious, and there's pressure to be unethical. And despite the drama portrayed on TV, real lawyers spend much of their time on painstakingly detailed research. In addition, those fat-salaried law jobs go to only the top few percent of an already high-powered lot.
Many people go to law school hoping to do so-called public-interest law. (In fact, much work not officially labeled as such does serve the public interest.) What they don't teach in law school is that the competition for those jobs is intense. I know one graduate of a Top Three law school, for instance, who also edited a law journal. She applied for a low-paying job at the National Abortion Rights Action League and, despite interviewing very well, didn't get the job.
From the Associated Press, MADISON, Wis. (AP) - A lawmaker who persuaded the Assembly to eliminate all state funding for the University of Wisconsin law school says his reasoning is simple: There's too many lawyers in Wisconsin.
From an ABA study about malpractice claims, More Sole Practicioners: There appears to be an increasing trend toward sole practicioners, due partly to a lack of jobs for new lawyers, but also due to increasing dissatisfaction among experienced lawyers with traditional firms; leading to some claims which could have been avoided with better mentoring.
New Lawyers: Most insurers have noticed that many young lawyers cannot find jobs with established firms, and so are starting their own practices without supervision or mentoring. This is likely to cause an increase in malpractice claims, although the claims may be relatively small in size due to the limited nature of a new lawyers
鈥淚n a survey conducted back in 1972 by the American Bar Association, seventy percent of Americans not only didn鈥檛 have a lawyer, they didn鈥檛 know how to find one. That鈥檚 right, thirty years ago the vast majority of people didn鈥檛 have a clue on how to find a lawyer. Now it鈥檚 almost impossible not to see lawyers everywhere you turn.';
From a recent Wall Street Journal Article, Hard Case: Job Market
Wanes for U.S. Lawyers
Growth of Legal Sector
Lags Broader Economy;
Law Schools Proliferate
By AMIR EFRATI
September 24, 2007; Page A1
A law degree isn't necessarily a license to print money these days.
For graduates of elite law schools, prospects have never been better. Big law firms this year boosted their starting salaries to as high as $160,000. But the majority of law-school graduates are suffering from a supply-and-demand imbalance that's suppressing pay and job growth. The result: Graduates who don't score at the top of their class are struggling to find well-paying jobs to make payments on law-school debts that can exceed $100,000. Some are taking temporary contract work, reviewing documents for as little as $20 an hour, without benefits. And many are blaming their law schools for failing to warn them about the dark side of the job market.
The law degree that Scott Bullock gained in 2005 from Seton Hall University -- where he says he ranked in the top third of his class -- is a ';waste,'; he says. Some former high-school friends are earning considerably more as plumbers and electricians than the $50,000-a-year Mr. Bullock is making as a personal-injury attorney in Manhattan. To boot, he is paying off $118,000 in law-school debt.
';Unfortunately, some find the practice of law is not for them,'; Seton Hall's associate dean, Kathleen Boozang, said through a spokeswoman. ';However, it is our experience that a legal education is a tremendous asset for a variety of professional paths.';
A slack in demand appears to be part of the problem. The legal sector, after more than tripling in inflation-adjusted growth between 1970 and 1987, has grown at an average annual inflation-adjusted rate of 1.2% since 1988, or less than half as fast as the broader economy, according to Commerce Department data.
Compare this to health care:
* Health care. Almost half the 30 fastest growing occupations are concentrated in health services -- including medical assistants, physical therapists, physician assistants, home health aides, pharmacists, physicians, dentists and medical records and health information technicians -- according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
LAW BLOG
Join a discussion on the state of the legal market.Some practice areas have declined in recent years: Personal-injury and medical-malpractice cases have been undercut by state laws limiting class-action suits, out-of-state plaintiffs and payouts on damages. Securities class-action litigation has declined in part because of a buoyant stock market.
On the supply end, more lawyers are entering the work force, thanks in part to the accreditation of new law schools and an influx of applicants after the dot-com implosion earlier this decade. In the 2005-06 academic year, 43,883 Juris Doctor degrees were awarded, up from 37,909 for 2001-02, according to the American Bar Association. Universities are starting up more law schools in part for prestige but also because they are money makers. Costs are low compared with other graduate schools and classrooms can be large. Since 1995, the number of ABA-accredited schools increased by 11%, to 196.
Evidence of a squeezed market among the majority of private lawyers in the U.S., who work as sole practitioners or at small firms, is growing. A survey of about 650 Chicago lawyers published in the 2005 book ';Urban Lawyers'; found that between 1975 and 1995 the inflation-adjusted average income of the top 25% of earners, generally big-firm lawyers, grew by 22% -- while income for the other 75% actually dropped.
According to the Internal Revenue Service, the inflation-adjusted average income of sole practitioners has been flat since the mid-1980s. A recent survey showed that out of nearly 600 lawyers at firms of 10 lawyers or fewer in Indiana, wages for the majority only kept pace with inflation or dropped in real terms over the past five years.
The news isn't any better for the 14% of new lawyers who go into government or join public-interest firms. Inflation-adjusted starting salaries for graduates who go to work for public-interest firms or the government rose 4% and 8.6%, respectively, between 1994 and 2006, according to the National Association for Law Placement, which aggregates graduate surveys from law schools. That compares with at least an 11% jump in the median family income during the same period, according to the Census Bureau. Graduates who become in-house company lawyers, about 9%, have fared better: Their salaries rose by nearly 14% during the same period.
Many students ';simply cannot earn enough income after graduation to support the debt they incur,'; wrote Richard Matasar, dean of New York Law School, in 2005, concluding that, ';We may be reaching the end of a golden era for law schools.';
Meanwhile, the prospects for big-firm lawyers are growing richer. While offering robust minimum salaries, those firms are paying astronomical amounts to their stars.
Now, debate is intensifying among law-school academics over the integrity of law schools' marketing campaigns. Defenders argue that the legal profession always has been openly and proudly a meritocracy: Top entrance-exam scores help win admittance to top schools where top students win jobs at top firms. Even the system that is used to issue law-school grades -- a curve that pits student against student -- reflects the law profession's competitiveness.
David Burcham, dean of Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, considered second-tier, says the school makes no guarantees to students that they will obtain jobs. He says it is problematic that big firms only interview the top of the class, ';but that's the nature of the employment market; it's never been different.';
OK, I have to interject right here. Did a dean of a law school basically say you could go through all the nonsense of getting into law school, law school, ethics exam, bar exam and you should not expect some sort of gainful employment after you are through? You might as well go to Las Vegas and put your tuition money on the rouelette table and let it ride, you may have better odds of making money than going to his school and getting a decent paying law job. This guy is a jerk.
For the majority of students and alumni, he says, Loyola ';turned out to be a good investment.';
Yet economic data suggest that prospects have grown bleaker for all but the top students, and now a number of law-school professors are calling for the distribution of more-accurate employment information. Incoming students are ';mesmerized by what's happening in big firms, but clueless about what's going on in the bottom half of the profession,'; says Richard Sander, a law professor at the University of California-Los Angeles who has studied the legal job market.
';Prospective students need solid comparative data on employment outcomes, [but] very few law schools provide such data,'; adds Andrew Morriss, a law professor at the University of Illinois who has studied the market for new lawyers.
Students entering law school have little way of knowing how tight a job market they might face. The only employment data that many prospective students see comes from school-promoted surveys that provide a far-from-complete portrait of graduate experiences. Tulane University, for example, reports to U.S. News %26amp; World Report magazine, which publishes widely watched annual law-school rankings, that its law-school graduates entering the job market in 2005 had a median salary of $135,000. But that is based on a survey that only 24% of that year's graduates completed, and those who did so likely represent the cream of the class, a Tulane official concedes.
On its Web site, the school currently reports an average starting salary of $96,356 for graduates in private practice but doesn't include what percentage of graduates reported salaries for the survey.
';It's within most individuals' nature to keep that information private, unless it's a high amount,'; says Carlos Dè°©vila-Caballero, assistant dean for career development at Tulane, who adds that his office tells prospective students to use the median figure as a guide because starting salaries vary widely.
Academics who have studied new-lawyer salaries say that the graduate surveys of many law schools are skewed by higher response rates from the most successful students. The National Association for Law Placement, which aggregates and publishes national data based on those surveys, concedes that it can't vouch for their accuracy. ';We can't validate the figures; we have to rely on schools to report to us accurately,'; says Judy Collins, NALP's director of research.
A prospective student studying NALP data might conclude that the study of law is a sure path to financial security. For 2006 graduates who entered private practice, or nearly 60%, NALP shows a national median salary of $95,000, a rise of 40%, adjusted for inflation, from 1994 graduates.
The NALP data also show that the percentage of graduates employed in private practice has been steady, fluctuating between 55% and 58% for more than a decade. But in law schools' self-published employment data, ';private practice'; doesn't necessarily mean jobs that improve long-term career prospects, for that category can include lawyers working under contract without benefits, such as Israel Meth. A 2005 graduate of Brooklyn Law School, he earns about $30 an hour as a contract attorney reviewing legal documents for big firms. He says he uses 60% of his paycheck to pay off student loans -- $100,000 for law school on top of $100,000 for the bachelor's degree he received from Columbia University.
A glossy admissions brochure for Brooklyn Law School, considered second-tier, reports a median salary for recent graduates at law firms of well above $100,000. But that figure doesn't reflect all incomes of graduates at firms; fewer than half of graduates at firms responded to the survey, the school reported to U.S. News. On its Web site, the school reports that 41% of last year's graduates work for firms of more than 100 lawyers, but it fails to mention that that percentage includes temporary attorneys, often working for hourly wages without benefits, Joan King, director of the school's career center, concedes.
Ms. King says she believes the figures for her school accurately represent the broader graduating class. She says the number of contract attorneys is ';minimal'; but declined to give a number.
The University of Richmond School of Law in the last couple of years started to be more open about its employment statistics; it now breaks out how many of its grads work as contract attorneys. Of 57 2006 graduates working in private practice, for example, seven were contract employees nine months after graduation. Schools ';should be sharing more information than they are now,'; says Joshua Burstein, associate dean for career services who put the changes in place. ';Most people graduating from law school,'; he says, ';are not going to be earning big salaries.';
Adding to the burden for young lawyers: Tuition growth at law schools has almost tripled the rate of inflation over the past 20 years, leading to higher debt for students and making starting salaries for most graduates less manageable, especially in expensive cities. Graduates in 2006 of public and private law schools had borrowed an average of $54,509 and $83,181, up 17% and 18.6%, respectively, from the amount borrowed by 2002 graduates, according to the American Bar Association.
Students taking on such debt may feel reassured by incessant press reports of big firms scrambling to hire and keep associates. Making headlines this year was a bump up in big-firm starting salaries to $160,000 from $145,000 in many cities.
And indeed, some law graduates of lower-tier schools do find high-paying private-practice law jobs. In recent years big firms have boomed thanks in part to the globalization of business and Wall Street deal making; firms have been casting a wider net for new lawyers, though they still generally restrict their recruiting at lower-tier schools to students at the very top of the class or on the law review. Some students have leads on a job at a family member's or friend's practice.
But just as common -- and much less publicized -- are experiences such as that of Sue Clark, who this year received her degree from second-tier Chicago-Kent College of Law, one of six law schools in the Chicago area. Despite graduating near the top half of her class, she has been unable to find a job and is doing temp work ';essentially as a paralegal,'; she says. ';A lot of people, including myself, feel frustrated about the lack of jobs,'; she says.
Harold Krent, Chicago-Kent's dean, said it's not uncommon for new lawyers to wait a few months to more than a year to find a job that's a good fit. He added that there is a ';small spike'; in employment after his school's grads receive their bar-exam results, several months after graduation, because some firms wait until then before hiring.
The market is particularly tough in big cities that boast numerous law schools. Mike Altmann, 29, a graduate of New York University who went to Brooklyn Law School, says he accumulated $130,000 in student-loan debt and graduated in 2002 with no meaningful employment opportunities -- one offer was a $33,000 job with no benefits. So Mr. Altmann became a contract attorney, reviewing electronic documents for big firms for around $20 to $30 an hour, and hasn't been able to find higher-paying work since.
Some un- or underemployed grads are seeking consolation online, where blogs and discussion boards have created venues for shared commiseration that didn't exist before. An anonymous writer called Loyola 2L, purportedly a student at Loyola Law School, who claims the school wasn't straight about employment prospects, has been beating a drum of discontent around the Web in the past year that's sparked thousands of responses, and a fan base. (';2L'; stands for second-year law student.) Some thank ';L2L'; for articulating their plight; others claim L2L should complain less and work more. Loyola's Dean Burcham says he wishes he knew who the student was so he could help the person. ';It's expensive to go to law school, and there are times when you second-guess yourself as a student,'; he says.
Some new lawyers try to hang their own shingle. Matthew Fox Curl graduated in 2004 from second-tier University of Houston in the bottom quarter of his class. After months of job hunting, he took his first job working for a sole practitioner focused on personal injury in the Houston area and made $32,000 in his first year. He quickly found that tort-reform legislation has been ';brutal'; to Texas plaintiffs' lawyers and last year left the firm to open up his own criminal-defense private practice.
He's making less money than at his last job and has thought about moving back to his parents' house. ';I didn't think three years out I'd be uninsured, thinking it's a great day when a crackhead brings me $500.';
See the problem is that we have this huge, growing, out of control population of lawyers, not unlike an animal population that gets out of control, the end result is famine.
--Mark Whitehouse contributed to this article.
Here is an example ad in Massachusetts for an experienced attorney, that mentions salary, it was posted this week. Most jobs don't state salary in the ad cause the pay is pretty low.
Office of the District Attorney, criminal attorney, for the Bristol County District seeks staff attorney for the Appellate Division. Excellent writing skills and a passion for appellate advocacy are a must. Salary $37,500. Preference given to candidates who live in or will relocate to Bristol County.
LOL, secretaries with no college can make more. What is even more sad is there will probably be like 50-100 lawyers that send in their resume for this ad.
Here is another attorney ad. They pay 35K-40K, yet they want someone with experience, multiple state admissions, and a writing sample. Oh, so sad.:
Small insurance defense firm seeks associate with 1-3 years experience. Admission to RI or NH bar a plus. The ideal candidate will have deposition experience, familiarity with billing and reporting requirements, as well as an ability to research and draft dispositive motions. Salary in the $35,000 to $40,000 range, dependent on experience. Please submit resume and writing sample to: LWP Box #161, 10 Milk St., Suite 1000, Boston, MA 02108.
Here is not an uncommon question posted on Yahoo Answers by someone that made the journey to find the harsh employment opportunities:
I graduated last Spring, took and passed the Maryland Bar, and am currently clerking for a judge. I have excellent academics, but no law firm or journal experience. I do have several years of non-legal work experience.
I've been sending out a few cold call cover letter/resume packets a day, plus responding to ads calling for less than 2 years experience in the local papers, bar assoc website, and even craigslist.
I still can't seem to get anywhere though. Any suggestions? Thanks for you time and thoughts!
Here is another post:
My bf just took the bar exam to become an attorney. He has posted resumes on yahoo, monster, craigs list, newspapers, etc. and just can't seem to find any work. Finally he decided to just apply for jobs like bank assistants etc. Interviewers would say he's too qualified for ';rookie'; positions, and he's ';not qualified'; enough for a lawyer position. Is there hope? Thanks.Do lawyers get time off, say for going on a hunting trip or vacation and how often?
I have a friend that is an attorney. And yes he takes off when he can. Of course he writes down the days or weeks he wants off, and if extra things come up or some cases take extra time, he will postpone his trip. But, when his mom got sick, he got his secretary to call everyone and put them on hold. Sometimes family comes first.
Sure they do. They just have to put it in their schedules.
Once you make a name for yourself and have your own offices you can set your own schedule. But it will take time to build your own practice. Good luck
depends
well if your going to be a lawyer your either going to open up your own lawfirm(lots of $) or work for another firm(beggining) and when starting off you will not complain about having to go somewhere because youl need 2 make a name 4 urself
It's not what you do, but who you do it with. If you come in with a new client on Monday, they will be pushing you back outside before lunch. Good Luck.
Have you never met a lawyer who hunted? They need duck blinds prepped for the season. There is a reason they join hunting clubs and pay others to help do that work. They know that they have to contribute time.
Just make sure they do not confuse for a pheasant.
What is the best gun for bird hunting?
i'm hunting in north carolina it will be in the woods short rangeWhat is the best gun for bird hunting?
Best?....... Interesting question.... I have a whole safe full of expensive shotguns and do you know what I use for birds??? An H%26amp;R Pardner 12 gauge...... It cheap and fun to use.... I have get more enjoyment out of it that with my Remington 870 Wingmaster......
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/鈥?/a>
If your budgets big enough then consider a semi-auto..... Remington, Mossberg and Binelli all have nice models.....
http://www.remington.com/products/firear鈥?/a>What is the best gun for bird hunting?
Ethan, interesting question you've asked. The best bird hunting shotgun would be the one you are most comfortable with, are accurate with, safe with, and is easy to carry. The auto loaders like the 1187 and the Browning autos are nice to carry, have excellent second shot placement and can be customized to fit you rather economically. Benelli also makes a nice auto, depending on your budget. I find more Benellis to be more of a range gun.
In the pumps you have several good choices, the Remington 870 and the Mossbergs are very nice guns and very affordable. The nice thing I like about a pump gun is the ease of barrel change over if I want to go to a slug or duck barrel without alot of change over time. I own both of these but my favorite pump is the Ithaca Model 37 with the hold down trigger.
And then we have the double guns, I'm not a big fan of side by sides in the field because of the field of vision that they take up. I do however like several of the over and unders. Here's where your budget will come into play. New O/Us can cost between $399 and $15,000 depending on the options and manufacture. Its hard to beat a Beretta or Winchester in any of their O/U models.
As for gage selection, again it depends on your comfort level and the game your hunting. For quail and dove in the Carolina's a 20 gage is alot of fun and easy on the shoulder after a full day in the woods. For ducks and the larger birds a 12 gage is something to consider.
If you looking for a comfortable carry, ease of shooting, and less felt recoil the remington auto would definately deserve a good look. You can always shop around for a good used one at gunshops and pawn shops. Hope this helps, good luck and good hunting.
Remington 1100 20 ga. My not be the best according to some but it is affordable and an excellent shotgun.
http://www.remington.com/products/firear鈥?/a>
If you want to go for something a lot more general, you can go for the 12 ga. But if you nail a quail at close range, there won't be much left. The 12 will make an excellent dove or pheasant gun as well.
If you're talking about upland birds, I'd use a 20 ga, 28 ga, or a .410 bore, double barrel or single shot. You want a light gun that you can carry comfortably all day.
For waterfowl, I'd use a 12 ga pump action or auto-loader
Always stick to 12 gauge since it comes in a variety of guns and different types of shells. A good hunting shotgun would be the following: Remington, Mossberg, Saiga, and Benelli.
I'd recommend a semi-auto Remington, such as the 1100, in either 12 or 20 gauge, with interchangeable choke tubes. If you need to save some money, a pump Mossberg with Improved Cylinder would be nice.
I would use the a Remington 870 12 gage because you can use it for many other things.
Remington 1100 20 gauge,have owned gun for over 10 years not 1 problem with it.
Mossberg 500 in 20ga, or Remington 870 in 20 ga.
Benelli Nova 12ga.
I use a Remington 11-87 when i dove hunt and quail hunt in south carolina
I would say a good gun for hunting is a gun that can shoot bullets
410 or 20 gauge shotgun
standard 9mm pistol with scope.
model 50 winchester mod choke ok thanks edie
A 4-10, 20 gauge or 12 gaugeclinique
Best?....... Interesting question.... I have a whole safe full of expensive shotguns and do you know what I use for birds??? An H%26amp;R Pardner 12 gauge...... It cheap and fun to use.... I have get more enjoyment out of it that with my Remington 870 Wingmaster......
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/鈥?/a>
If your budgets big enough then consider a semi-auto..... Remington, Mossberg and Binelli all have nice models.....
http://www.remington.com/products/firear鈥?/a>What is the best gun for bird hunting?
Ethan, interesting question you've asked. The best bird hunting shotgun would be the one you are most comfortable with, are accurate with, safe with, and is easy to carry. The auto loaders like the 1187 and the Browning autos are nice to carry, have excellent second shot placement and can be customized to fit you rather economically. Benelli also makes a nice auto, depending on your budget. I find more Benellis to be more of a range gun.
In the pumps you have several good choices, the Remington 870 and the Mossbergs are very nice guns and very affordable. The nice thing I like about a pump gun is the ease of barrel change over if I want to go to a slug or duck barrel without alot of change over time. I own both of these but my favorite pump is the Ithaca Model 37 with the hold down trigger.
And then we have the double guns, I'm not a big fan of side by sides in the field because of the field of vision that they take up. I do however like several of the over and unders. Here's where your budget will come into play. New O/Us can cost between $399 and $15,000 depending on the options and manufacture. Its hard to beat a Beretta or Winchester in any of their O/U models.
As for gage selection, again it depends on your comfort level and the game your hunting. For quail and dove in the Carolina's a 20 gage is alot of fun and easy on the shoulder after a full day in the woods. For ducks and the larger birds a 12 gage is something to consider.
If you looking for a comfortable carry, ease of shooting, and less felt recoil the remington auto would definately deserve a good look. You can always shop around for a good used one at gunshops and pawn shops. Hope this helps, good luck and good hunting.
Remington 1100 20 ga. My not be the best according to some but it is affordable and an excellent shotgun.
http://www.remington.com/products/firear鈥?/a>
If you want to go for something a lot more general, you can go for the 12 ga. But if you nail a quail at close range, there won't be much left. The 12 will make an excellent dove or pheasant gun as well.
If you're talking about upland birds, I'd use a 20 ga, 28 ga, or a .410 bore, double barrel or single shot. You want a light gun that you can carry comfortably all day.
For waterfowl, I'd use a 12 ga pump action or auto-loader
Always stick to 12 gauge since it comes in a variety of guns and different types of shells. A good hunting shotgun would be the following: Remington, Mossberg, Saiga, and Benelli.
I'd recommend a semi-auto Remington, such as the 1100, in either 12 or 20 gauge, with interchangeable choke tubes. If you need to save some money, a pump Mossberg with Improved Cylinder would be nice.
I would use the a Remington 870 12 gage because you can use it for many other things.
Remington 1100 20 gauge,have owned gun for over 10 years not 1 problem with it.
Mossberg 500 in 20ga, or Remington 870 in 20 ga.
Benelli Nova 12ga.
I use a Remington 11-87 when i dove hunt and quail hunt in south carolina
I would say a good gun for hunting is a gun that can shoot bullets
410 or 20 gauge shotgun
standard 9mm pistol with scope.
model 50 winchester mod choke ok thanks edie
A 4-10, 20 gauge or 12 gauge
Unique/ Hunting/fishing gift ideas for the OTHER???
Hi everyone, I am looking for some unique hunting/fishing gift ideas for my other half. I really am stuck on him this year. Years past I had a whole list of idea's of stuff to get him. Now that we have been together for so long im stuck. Can any of you out there give me any good idea's for him?Unique/ Hunting/fishing gift ideas for the OTHER???
Bass pro shop is having a big sale for Christmas
1st link is hunting 2nd link is fishing
They also sell gift cards you can purchase any value, give him the choice to shop on line with the gift card, that way you KNOW he is getting something he wantsUnique/ Hunting/fishing gift ideas for the OTHER???
I have used Bass Pro Shop, very good stuff! very dependable! Good luck in your shopping, and thanks for picking me as BA
What kind of fishing or hunting does he like to do?
One special gift that goes on forever is to have any special picture of them with their big catch or animal enlarged and framed!
you could get him some new boots - Five!
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A gift certificate/card may just be your answer. Links will direct ya' to some very reputable sites. Hope this helps ;)...
Cabela's:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa鈥?/a>
Bass Pro:
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores鈥?/a>
best thing I can tell you is to tell him to give you suggestions or by him a new boat I am always up for a new boat hard to tell you something he might want we do not know what kind of fishing he does or what he already has
good luck and remember that is the thought that counts
maybe get him all the new fishing gare.... or maybe new boots, or
http://fishing.about.com/od/fishingprodu鈥?/a>
Bass pro shop is having a big sale for Christmas
1st link is hunting 2nd link is fishing
They also sell gift cards you can purchase any value, give him the choice to shop on line with the gift card, that way you KNOW he is getting something he wantsUnique/ Hunting/fishing gift ideas for the OTHER???
I have used Bass Pro Shop, very good stuff! very dependable! Good luck in your shopping, and thanks for picking me as BA
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What kind of fishing or hunting does he like to do?
One special gift that goes on forever is to have any special picture of them with their big catch or animal enlarged and framed!
you could get him some new boots - Five!
EDIT!
Whoops 4 Im a dumb a s s.
A gift certificate/card may just be your answer. Links will direct ya' to some very reputable sites. Hope this helps ;)...
Cabela's:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa鈥?/a>
Bass Pro:
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores鈥?/a>
best thing I can tell you is to tell him to give you suggestions or by him a new boat I am always up for a new boat hard to tell you something he might want we do not know what kind of fishing he does or what he already has
good luck and remember that is the thought that counts
maybe get him all the new fishing gare.... or maybe new boots, or
http://fishing.about.com/od/fishingprodu鈥?/a>
What are .308 caliber rifles good for hunting?
Also .270 win.What are .308 caliber rifles good for hunting?
well that depends on witch .308 caliber rifle you are talking about.
30/30 is a good brush gun for deer out to about 100 yards
308 winchester is good for most animals in north america with the right bullet selection
30/06 is a good rifle for anything in north america
300 win mag is good for any thing a 30/06 is good for but with more recoil
A .270 is a rifle round dirved from the 30/06 necked down to .270, also is good for most north american gameWhat are .308 caliber rifles good for hunting?
Pigeons and cats.
All Game in North America, although I prefer the 30-06 myself*...
both are excellent on all n. american big game. however, i personally feel that the .270 is a bit small for big bears and moose. the .308 is fine for everything,though. what people need to remember is the .308 is, basically, a 30.06 with less noise and less recoil. also, surplus ammo for .308 makes it cheaper to practice with.
Anything that moves and is designated a legal target on the continental us.
the obvious choice for the .308 is Osama Bin Laden otherwise both are good for deer,varmint(cayote,prairie dog,woodchuck/groundhog,etc.),and black bear. the .270 is well suited for deer hunting.
Every game animal in North America has fallen before the .308 Win and .270 Win.
That doesn't mean that I, or lots of other folks, think the .308 Win or .270 Win are good choices for the really big stuff, like brown/grizzly bears, or moose. But I'd not pass up a chance to hunt moose if my only rifle was a .308 or .270.
BTW, with proper bullet selection, you can reload the .308 into a respectable varmint cartridge, or an outstanding long-range target cartridge.
Doc
Everything in North America.
both are very good for hunting anything in cali.308 is a sniper round and kicks a little less but leaves bigger holes
They are good for almost any game in America. I wouldnt hunt grizzlies with either, course you cant shoot them in the US anyway i dont think, id leave that to the big guns. I wouldnt think they would do bad on black bear, but i might hestitate on the .270. You could hunt deer, boar, elk, and anything else you could think of. I dont know if the .270 will take an elk, for sure. If you use small bullets, you can use either on coyote, bobcat, and otehr smaller predators. The only game i wouldnt use the .308 on would be moose. It might be too small for that one. I think id go bigger than the 30-06 too. The .270 would be out of the question on that one.
.308 and .270 rounds are good for hunting just about any large game in North America. Whitetail deer, black bear, even some larger bear. They are a bit too big as varmint calibers, so I'd not use them for coyote or bobcat, etc.
Both calibers shoot flat, are exceptionally accurate, and will do just about any big game task you need them to do.
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deer, bear, elk, anything big! .308 is 7.62 mm military, the U.S. uses 5.56 mm now a .223! I personally don't like .270 cal. the bullets have a tendency to tear apart. Don't know why, they just do with me! I don't hunt anymore either, personal choice, tired of killing! But see hunting as necessary to the overall health and conservation of big game animals, mainly deer, which I have seen starved to death when the populations were too much for the habitat!
well that depends on witch .308 caliber rifle you are talking about.
30/30 is a good brush gun for deer out to about 100 yards
308 winchester is good for most animals in north america with the right bullet selection
30/06 is a good rifle for anything in north america
300 win mag is good for any thing a 30/06 is good for but with more recoil
A .270 is a rifle round dirved from the 30/06 necked down to .270, also is good for most north american gameWhat are .308 caliber rifles good for hunting?
Pigeons and cats.
All Game in North America, although I prefer the 30-06 myself*...
both are excellent on all n. american big game. however, i personally feel that the .270 is a bit small for big bears and moose. the .308 is fine for everything,though. what people need to remember is the .308 is, basically, a 30.06 with less noise and less recoil. also, surplus ammo for .308 makes it cheaper to practice with.
Anything that moves and is designated a legal target on the continental us.
the obvious choice for the .308 is Osama Bin Laden otherwise both are good for deer,varmint(cayote,prairie dog,woodchuck/groundhog,etc.),and black bear. the .270 is well suited for deer hunting.
Every game animal in North America has fallen before the .308 Win and .270 Win.
That doesn't mean that I, or lots of other folks, think the .308 Win or .270 Win are good choices for the really big stuff, like brown/grizzly bears, or moose. But I'd not pass up a chance to hunt moose if my only rifle was a .308 or .270.
BTW, with proper bullet selection, you can reload the .308 into a respectable varmint cartridge, or an outstanding long-range target cartridge.
Doc
Everything in North America.
both are very good for hunting anything in cali.308 is a sniper round and kicks a little less but leaves bigger holes
They are good for almost any game in America. I wouldnt hunt grizzlies with either, course you cant shoot them in the US anyway i dont think, id leave that to the big guns. I wouldnt think they would do bad on black bear, but i might hestitate on the .270. You could hunt deer, boar, elk, and anything else you could think of. I dont know if the .270 will take an elk, for sure. If you use small bullets, you can use either on coyote, bobcat, and otehr smaller predators. The only game i wouldnt use the .308 on would be moose. It might be too small for that one. I think id go bigger than the 30-06 too. The .270 would be out of the question on that one.
.308 and .270 rounds are good for hunting just about any large game in North America. Whitetail deer, black bear, even some larger bear. They are a bit too big as varmint calibers, so I'd not use them for coyote or bobcat, etc.
Both calibers shoot flat, are exceptionally accurate, and will do just about any big game task you need them to do.
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deer, bear, elk, anything big! .308 is 7.62 mm military, the U.S. uses 5.56 mm now a .223! I personally don't like .270 cal. the bullets have a tendency to tear apart. Don't know why, they just do with me! I don't hunt anymore either, personal choice, tired of killing! But see hunting as necessary to the overall health and conservation of big game animals, mainly deer, which I have seen starved to death when the populations were too much for the habitat!
Deer hunting some moose and black bear which is the best cartridge? 270, 7mm mag, 300 win mag 30 06?
Lets debate im buying a new thompson center ventureDeer hunting some moose and black bear which is the best cartridge? 270, 7mm mag, 300 win mag 30 06?
All would work great with good shot placement. None would without. That being said, any would be a good choice. I'd shy away from the smaller .270 though. The .300 would be a little expensive to shoot and not necessary. That would leave you with the 7mm Remington Magnum or the die hard 30-06. My preference is the 7mm. I currently shoot 170 grain bullets out of mine. That is more than enough to take down anything in Norh America. But don't look past the 06. It's tried and true. Ammo availability and endless cartridge options is always good.Deer hunting some moose and black bear which is the best cartridge? 270, 7mm mag, 300 win mag 30 06?
My dad has hunted with a 270. win and a 270. win only for the last 25 years and has taken 3 whitetail, (1 buck and 2 does) hes taken 5 moose (4 bulls and 1 cow), 1 black bear, and 4 caribou ( all bulls) he has not had a problem taking any of them, so anyone saying its too light its not.
personally i love the 270. win but i would take the 7mm rem mag only because it does everything the 270. win but better.
Before you buy the 300 win mag, you might try to borrow one to see how much the kick bothers you. If it is too much you won't shoot as well and will stop enjoying your rifle.
I've always thought the 30-06 is a nice compromise cartridge which can be shot in fairly low weights for deer or heavier for elk and moose. Some think the .270 to be a little too light - others like it when they always do good shot placement.
Just my 2 cents. But a guy cant go wrong with the 30-06 or .338 win mag. And guess what guides and hunters carry here in Alaska a lot? The same. The .338 win mag was the king of the elk rounds long ago and it still works on big critters. And personally I prefer the recoil of the 338 over the .300 mag. Feels good lol!
There was this old famous hunter named Col. Townsend who said you cant go wrong with the 30-06. He took about every critter you could imagine with it on several continents. As he said “it’s not the best for some things” but for a all round big game rifle the 06’ isn’t shabby.
I carry a 338 win mag for bears, moose and elk, the 06 for deer, black bear and antelope.
The thompson center will work fine if your good with it.
* All you really need is the tried, true, tested , and proved to be the Most Popular used Rifle for that purpose since 1906 its the 30-06.* Magnums are not necessary, or needed for harvesting any Big Game in North America.* Use the 180 or 220 grain core-lokt bullet by Remington.*
I own a 7mm rem mag and i LOVE it, i can shoot a group about the size of a paper plate at 500 yards with it. At 200 yards im stacking bullets, im 17 years old and have been shooting since i was 9. But for all the animals you choose i would pick the 7mm rem mag because of its flat trajectory and good variety of bullet grains. Hope i helped.
my vote is for 300 win mag. lots of power. cost about 25 bucks for a box of 20 (not bad). recoil isn't terrible. you could get a limb saver recoil pad and a scope with a long eye relief and be just fine.
well i own a 30.06 and it is great it shoots flat. at a 100 yards site in i'm off only like a quarter inch great gun . i have the savage
i own all of those but the 270
i would pick the 30-06 for a good all around gun
buy the 300 win mag and take the beating like a real girl does BOOYAH
All would work great with good shot placement. None would without. That being said, any would be a good choice. I'd shy away from the smaller .270 though. The .300 would be a little expensive to shoot and not necessary. That would leave you with the 7mm Remington Magnum or the die hard 30-06. My preference is the 7mm. I currently shoot 170 grain bullets out of mine. That is more than enough to take down anything in Norh America. But don't look past the 06. It's tried and true. Ammo availability and endless cartridge options is always good.Deer hunting some moose and black bear which is the best cartridge? 270, 7mm mag, 300 win mag 30 06?
My dad has hunted with a 270. win and a 270. win only for the last 25 years and has taken 3 whitetail, (1 buck and 2 does) hes taken 5 moose (4 bulls and 1 cow), 1 black bear, and 4 caribou ( all bulls) he has not had a problem taking any of them, so anyone saying its too light its not.
personally i love the 270. win but i would take the 7mm rem mag only because it does everything the 270. win but better.
Before you buy the 300 win mag, you might try to borrow one to see how much the kick bothers you. If it is too much you won't shoot as well and will stop enjoying your rifle.
I've always thought the 30-06 is a nice compromise cartridge which can be shot in fairly low weights for deer or heavier for elk and moose. Some think the .270 to be a little too light - others like it when they always do good shot placement.
Just my 2 cents. But a guy cant go wrong with the 30-06 or .338 win mag. And guess what guides and hunters carry here in Alaska a lot? The same. The .338 win mag was the king of the elk rounds long ago and it still works on big critters. And personally I prefer the recoil of the 338 over the .300 mag. Feels good lol!
There was this old famous hunter named Col. Townsend who said you cant go wrong with the 30-06. He took about every critter you could imagine with it on several continents. As he said “it’s not the best for some things” but for a all round big game rifle the 06’ isn’t shabby.
I carry a 338 win mag for bears, moose and elk, the 06 for deer, black bear and antelope.
The thompson center will work fine if your good with it.
* All you really need is the tried, true, tested , and proved to be the Most Popular used Rifle for that purpose since 1906 its the 30-06.* Magnums are not necessary, or needed for harvesting any Big Game in North America.* Use the 180 or 220 grain core-lokt bullet by Remington.*
I own a 7mm rem mag and i LOVE it, i can shoot a group about the size of a paper plate at 500 yards with it. At 200 yards im stacking bullets, im 17 years old and have been shooting since i was 9. But for all the animals you choose i would pick the 7mm rem mag because of its flat trajectory and good variety of bullet grains. Hope i helped.
my vote is for 300 win mag. lots of power. cost about 25 bucks for a box of 20 (not bad). recoil isn't terrible. you could get a limb saver recoil pad and a scope with a long eye relief and be just fine.
well i own a 30.06 and it is great it shoots flat. at a 100 yards site in i'm off only like a quarter inch great gun . i have the savage
i own all of those but the 270
i would pick the 30-06 for a good all around gun
buy the 300 win mag and take the beating like a real girl does BOOYAH
I Am Goin To Buy A New Rest For My Bow. It is for hunting so im only shooting about 40 yards. What shall i buy
I dont bow hunt anymore but i have heard that the ';whisker Biscuit'; is the cats meow for quiet huntingI Am Goin To Buy A New Rest For My Bow. It is for hunting so im only shooting about 40 yards. What shall i buy
I'm also on board for the Whisker Biscuit. Thats what I have on mine and its not perfect, but that arrow always stays right where its supposed to.I Am Goin To Buy A New Rest For My Bow. It is for hunting so im only shooting about 40 yards. What shall i buy
I have to chime in on the whisker bisquit... won't lose the arrow at any angle and they are extremely consistant. Best rest on the market
Try a flipper style rest. i read in Field and stream they are quietest. The other i would try is the wisker biscut.
yup. I use a whisker biscuit, too. I think it's more consistent than those prong rests.
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You can't beat a good whisker biscuit for hunting. You don't have to worry about your arrow falling off the rest and you can buy different inserts to fit whatever size arrow you have. I used to shoot a ';fall away'; but I spooked a deer once when the arrow ';clicked'; on the rest. I shoot targets at 20, 30 and 40 yards and the accuracy is amazing. I lose a touch of velocity, but not enough to worry about.
I'm also on board for the Whisker Biscuit. Thats what I have on mine and its not perfect, but that arrow always stays right where its supposed to.I Am Goin To Buy A New Rest For My Bow. It is for hunting so im only shooting about 40 yards. What shall i buy
I have to chime in on the whisker bisquit... won't lose the arrow at any angle and they are extremely consistant. Best rest on the market
Try a flipper style rest. i read in Field and stream they are quietest. The other i would try is the wisker biscut.
yup. I use a whisker biscuit, too. I think it's more consistent than those prong rests.
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You can't beat a good whisker biscuit for hunting. You don't have to worry about your arrow falling off the rest and you can buy different inserts to fit whatever size arrow you have. I used to shoot a ';fall away'; but I spooked a deer once when the arrow ';clicked'; on the rest. I shoot targets at 20, 30 and 40 yards and the accuracy is amazing. I lose a touch of velocity, but not enough to worry about.
When does holden caulfield put on his hunting hat? When does he take it off?
i already have when hes at the train station on the train and when he leaves pencey. Anymore ideas??? im stumped. Ive been looking all over the internet and read the book and can't remember anymore. Please Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!When does holden caulfield put on his hunting hat? When does he take it off?
It's like a comfort blanket for him. Whenever he is uncomfortable, like after Stradlater leaves after they fight, he puts it on. He always kind of uses it to assert his realness, i guess you could say. He always talks about how people are phonies and he wears it backward because it doesn't matter what other people think of him When does holden caulfield put on his hunting hat? When does he take it off?
i love Holden!!! He's so cute! Especially when he describes Jane.
Um, i think he puts it on when he's at his house visiting his little sister, and then gives it to her.clinique
It's like a comfort blanket for him. Whenever he is uncomfortable, like after Stradlater leaves after they fight, he puts it on. He always kind of uses it to assert his realness, i guess you could say. He always talks about how people are phonies and he wears it backward because it doesn't matter what other people think of him When does holden caulfield put on his hunting hat? When does he take it off?
i love Holden!!! He's so cute! Especially when he describes Jane.
Um, i think he puts it on when he's at his house visiting his little sister, and then gives it to her.
Question for members of uk/us ghost hunting groups?
i've been a member of a local ghost hunting group for a year now %26amp; have enjoyed investigations etc, but the group seems to be falling apart, have you ever left one group %26amp; joined another one? if so, what was the transition like please?Question for members of uk/us ghost hunting groups?
i went on a ghost hunt last night in bolton (smithills hall). my friend took photos and got a ghost! i love ghosts and the paranormal. Where i live there isn`t a group but i with there were. i may start my own.Question for members of uk/us ghost hunting groups?
I usaly find that we never take enough evo stick and somone always forgets to bring a baseball bat.
My local has 25 spirits :-)
Join our club ';Spirits anonymous'; we never seen anything paranormal to date, but the parties and outdoor sex are something else!
i went on a ghost hunt last night in bolton (smithills hall). my friend took photos and got a ghost! i love ghosts and the paranormal. Where i live there isn`t a group but i with there were. i may start my own.Question for members of uk/us ghost hunting groups?
I usaly find that we never take enough evo stick and somone always forgets to bring a baseball bat.
My local has 25 spirits :-)
Join our club ';Spirits anonymous'; we never seen anything paranormal to date, but the parties and outdoor sex are something else!
Wats the best weapon to take boar hunting??
gun or bow, and brand name and etc. thanks. also if your not planning n answering the question then dont write anything.Wats the best weapon to take boar hunting??
There is no one best answer for this. Everyone has good answers but jordan k, and montec man have a good point. I have owned 9 different bows and have killed hogs with all of them. I've also killed hogs with every gun that I have ever owned, including the 22 while squirrel hunting.The 22 will kill a hog graveyard dead when shot behind the ear.Just ask any old country boy that lives in hog country if a 22 wont kill a hog! Most hogs in my area are killed by 22's while someone was squirrel hunting- but a lot have upgraded to the 22 magnum just for the hogs. I'm not reccomending the 22 as a primary hog gun, just making a point that almost any weapon will kill a hog with good shot placement.Wats the best weapon to take boar hunting??
First and foremost is what size hog and what is the typical range?
If within 100 yards in light brush on less than a 300 pounder you could use a 243 or 270 ( I use a m1 carbine )
If your outside 100 yards or over 300 pounds I would go with a 308, 30-30, or 30-06.
I do enjoy hunting them with a 30 carbine single action revolver within 75 foot.
I use a Remington 788 rifle chambered in 243 for hog hunting. As long as you are under 200 yards which shouldn't be a problem where most hogs live. Then a 243 will work fine my Brother shoots a Remington 700 chambered in 7 mag for his hogs so really anything more than a 243.
P.S. The best way to bring down a boar is a shot right behind the ear. This shot will bring down any sized pig and drop it in its tracks no matter what kind of gun your shooting.
Since they are generally in wooded areas I think a large caliber single action revolver, no smaller than 44 mag (I prefer 476 Linebaugh), or a short barreled rifle. Shorter rifles are quicker on target in the brush. I agree with the other post, take enough gun with you.
I agree with the posters saying take enough gun. I have never hunted hogs myself but would like to. Also if you want to use a bow I dont see any reason why a good 60-70lb wouldnt do a good job provided you used heavier arrows and at least 125 gr fixed broadheads.
An old buddy has the best hog gun I've seen: a little double (side-by-side) in 8mm JRS. We generally shoot sows, though, for better eating. I might go with 9.3x74 R instead if I were going purely for the big boars.
Gun. Rifle to be exact. A Remington 673 Guide Rifle in .350 Remington Magnum topped with a Burris 1-n-3/4'; to 5x scope.
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Another question with an obvious cut-n-dry answer. Again I've droped'em with everything from a knife or arrow to .22mag through 12 guage slugs. Its all about shot placement.
30-30 Winchester, 32 Winchester Special, 303 British, 30-40 Krag, 30-06.* Any and all of these will harvest them.*
Rifle: 30-30 Lever, or a semi auto 7.62 x 39 SKS any of those because you might need a speedy relode incase you miss or the boar decides to charge.
A rifle. The larger the caliber, the better.
Mosin Nagant 7.62X65R knocks em dead everytime.
I dont know much about diffrent kind of guns...but I would use a gun.
There is no one best answer for this. Everyone has good answers but jordan k, and montec man have a good point. I have owned 9 different bows and have killed hogs with all of them. I've also killed hogs with every gun that I have ever owned, including the 22 while squirrel hunting.The 22 will kill a hog graveyard dead when shot behind the ear.Just ask any old country boy that lives in hog country if a 22 wont kill a hog! Most hogs in my area are killed by 22's while someone was squirrel hunting- but a lot have upgraded to the 22 magnum just for the hogs. I'm not reccomending the 22 as a primary hog gun, just making a point that almost any weapon will kill a hog with good shot placement.Wats the best weapon to take boar hunting??
First and foremost is what size hog and what is the typical range?
If within 100 yards in light brush on less than a 300 pounder you could use a 243 or 270 ( I use a m1 carbine )
If your outside 100 yards or over 300 pounds I would go with a 308, 30-30, or 30-06.
I do enjoy hunting them with a 30 carbine single action revolver within 75 foot.
I use a Remington 788 rifle chambered in 243 for hog hunting. As long as you are under 200 yards which shouldn't be a problem where most hogs live. Then a 243 will work fine my Brother shoots a Remington 700 chambered in 7 mag for his hogs so really anything more than a 243.
P.S. The best way to bring down a boar is a shot right behind the ear. This shot will bring down any sized pig and drop it in its tracks no matter what kind of gun your shooting.
Since they are generally in wooded areas I think a large caliber single action revolver, no smaller than 44 mag (I prefer 476 Linebaugh), or a short barreled rifle. Shorter rifles are quicker on target in the brush. I agree with the other post, take enough gun with you.
I agree with the posters saying take enough gun. I have never hunted hogs myself but would like to. Also if you want to use a bow I dont see any reason why a good 60-70lb wouldnt do a good job provided you used heavier arrows and at least 125 gr fixed broadheads.
An old buddy has the best hog gun I've seen: a little double (side-by-side) in 8mm JRS. We generally shoot sows, though, for better eating. I might go with 9.3x74 R instead if I were going purely for the big boars.
Gun. Rifle to be exact. A Remington 673 Guide Rifle in .350 Remington Magnum topped with a Burris 1-n-3/4'; to 5x scope.
H
Another question with an obvious cut-n-dry answer. Again I've droped'em with everything from a knife or arrow to .22mag through 12 guage slugs. Its all about shot placement.
30-30 Winchester, 32 Winchester Special, 303 British, 30-40 Krag, 30-06.* Any and all of these will harvest them.*
Rifle: 30-30 Lever, or a semi auto 7.62 x 39 SKS any of those because you might need a speedy relode incase you miss or the boar decides to charge.
A rifle. The larger the caliber, the better.
Mosin Nagant 7.62X65R knocks em dead everytime.
I dont know much about diffrent kind of guns...but I would use a gun.
Its a country song bout dog hunting an it like we tune them lose?
i cant remeber but it also talks about a man buying up the land an he likes hunting from a standIts a country song bout dog hunting an it like we tune them lose?
Dog huntin man- david cooler
Dog huntin man- david cooler
What can i do while i wait for it to be daylight before hunting?
when waiting for the sun to come upWhat can i do while i wait for it to be daylight before hunting?
To be honest, I used to sit back with a cigarette and a thermos of coffee. This might not be the best thing if you are pursuing a buck of a lifetime. (For the record, I believe smoking in a treestand isn't a bad thing if you are looking to kill anything for meat...I know there is endless debate on the issue. Personally, hunting is one of the few times I smoke and I usually do pretty well. Last year was the first year I got skunked in 15 years)
Given today's technology, I'd probably just bring the I-Pod and a paur of ear phones. Listen to music or if you are in a treestand, watch some downloaded TV or movies.
If you have a cell phone with games, play with that for an hour or two.
If you want to be creative, build yourself a firepit out of a coffee can and make a cooking surface out of some clean metal doweling. Grill yourself breakfast on the stand/blind. (I used to have a fire in my ground blind during rifle season and never had a problem tagging out)
10-15 years ago, you used to be able to buy electonic handheld games that would fit into a pocket (OK a large pocket back then). I'm not sure if such things are still sold, but it may be an idea to buy something like that and turn the sound off.
Now a days, provided I do not have my coffee and a pack of Marlboro Lights, I do what many hunters do. Sit back and enjoy what is around me. If i can't see, I just sit back and work on life's problems. I've solved many problems from a tree stand. Use the time to just sit and think. It can be a tough thing to do if you are young, but it is pretty enjoyable when you are older.
Best of luck to you this year. Happy HuntingWhat can i do while i wait for it to be daylight before hunting?
I too hunt out of a ground blind sometimes. I usually get there about 1 hour before daylight, even in a tree stand I do too.
What I do, when it's barely daylight, long before it's legal to shoot, I'll look around the best I can and see if anything has changed, just as branches, twigs, or sticks down or broken or different than they were before. I'll also go over in my mind different scenarios about where, or what path a deer will take and how best to handle the situation.
Keep in mind, it's just barely daylight so it can be hard to see things, but this is what I do to pass the time before daylight. And just being out there alone in the still with no phones, no TV just the sounds of early morning and nature, nothing better!!
Well I've never done any blind hunting for deer, but when I get out early to sit on a clearcut, I usually try to make as little noise as possible before light. Then if I'm really bored I'll try to get some sleep, but it's hard to sleep sitting on the side of a hill on a hard rock stump if you know what I mean. You should stay attentive though to your surroundings just in case you have a deer walk behind you or something because spooking a deer out of an area can sometimes ruin the rest of the hunt.
Playing with a cell phone or electronics is not good. It spooks deer. The light is very visible in the dark, and is not natural.
Smoking is a no no for the big ones.
And using night vision can get you arrested in CT if you have a gun in the woods after dark.
I don't know what the answer is. I go in and am in my stand 30 to 40 min before sunrise, an drink a coffee. I love that peace full time.
I also have a very busy life, and a half hour of nothingness it aw-some.
I bet you will learn to love it too as you become more experienced.
Good Luck
Well T, I used to wait it out, get bored, cat nap, jack with the heater, ect. For the past two years I get in about a hour before sunrise and break out my night vision goggles. If you want to get a better understanding of white tails watch 'em an hour before sunrise and the hour or two after sunset.
they used to make these rectangular things, with paper inside, and a thicker paper cover, I think they were called ' books ' , they work surprisingly well with the new LED clip on lights for your ball cap. See if you can find one somewhere.
Put your cell phone on vibrate, and play the games on there. It does pass time. I just sit and wait it out. I am to excited to go to sleep. I have been playing games for quite sometime now. Good luck this year.
uhh....wait? that's what hunting is kinda about dude. i used to try to sleep to...till i woke up about 3 inch's from falling 15 feet. then i thought it would be smarter to stay awake. dont get in the woods to early though, hour before sun up is just fine.
You should make yourself familiar with your surroundings. Note any apple trees or clumps of dirt far away that might look like deer. And look for places that a deer might be that you can't see very well.
Clear your mind - meditate, absorb in your mind the surrounding noises and try a discern what the critters are up to.
a hand-held video game w/the sound turned off or bring something like a mp3 player or iPod
play a hand held game w/ no sound
(poker, blackjack, etc.)
sleep
To be honest, I used to sit back with a cigarette and a thermos of coffee. This might not be the best thing if you are pursuing a buck of a lifetime. (For the record, I believe smoking in a treestand isn't a bad thing if you are looking to kill anything for meat...I know there is endless debate on the issue. Personally, hunting is one of the few times I smoke and I usually do pretty well. Last year was the first year I got skunked in 15 years)
Given today's technology, I'd probably just bring the I-Pod and a paur of ear phones. Listen to music or if you are in a treestand, watch some downloaded TV or movies.
If you have a cell phone with games, play with that for an hour or two.
If you want to be creative, build yourself a firepit out of a coffee can and make a cooking surface out of some clean metal doweling. Grill yourself breakfast on the stand/blind. (I used to have a fire in my ground blind during rifle season and never had a problem tagging out)
10-15 years ago, you used to be able to buy electonic handheld games that would fit into a pocket (OK a large pocket back then). I'm not sure if such things are still sold, but it may be an idea to buy something like that and turn the sound off.
Now a days, provided I do not have my coffee and a pack of Marlboro Lights, I do what many hunters do. Sit back and enjoy what is around me. If i can't see, I just sit back and work on life's problems. I've solved many problems from a tree stand. Use the time to just sit and think. It can be a tough thing to do if you are young, but it is pretty enjoyable when you are older.
Best of luck to you this year. Happy HuntingWhat can i do while i wait for it to be daylight before hunting?
I too hunt out of a ground blind sometimes. I usually get there about 1 hour before daylight, even in a tree stand I do too.
What I do, when it's barely daylight, long before it's legal to shoot, I'll look around the best I can and see if anything has changed, just as branches, twigs, or sticks down or broken or different than they were before. I'll also go over in my mind different scenarios about where, or what path a deer will take and how best to handle the situation.
Keep in mind, it's just barely daylight so it can be hard to see things, but this is what I do to pass the time before daylight. And just being out there alone in the still with no phones, no TV just the sounds of early morning and nature, nothing better!!
Well I've never done any blind hunting for deer, but when I get out early to sit on a clearcut, I usually try to make as little noise as possible before light. Then if I'm really bored I'll try to get some sleep, but it's hard to sleep sitting on the side of a hill on a hard rock stump if you know what I mean. You should stay attentive though to your surroundings just in case you have a deer walk behind you or something because spooking a deer out of an area can sometimes ruin the rest of the hunt.
Playing with a cell phone or electronics is not good. It spooks deer. The light is very visible in the dark, and is not natural.
Smoking is a no no for the big ones.
And using night vision can get you arrested in CT if you have a gun in the woods after dark.
I don't know what the answer is. I go in and am in my stand 30 to 40 min before sunrise, an drink a coffee. I love that peace full time.
I also have a very busy life, and a half hour of nothingness it aw-some.
I bet you will learn to love it too as you become more experienced.
Good Luck
Well T, I used to wait it out, get bored, cat nap, jack with the heater, ect. For the past two years I get in about a hour before sunrise and break out my night vision goggles. If you want to get a better understanding of white tails watch 'em an hour before sunrise and the hour or two after sunset.
they used to make these rectangular things, with paper inside, and a thicker paper cover, I think they were called ' books ' , they work surprisingly well with the new LED clip on lights for your ball cap. See if you can find one somewhere.
Put your cell phone on vibrate, and play the games on there. It does pass time. I just sit and wait it out. I am to excited to go to sleep. I have been playing games for quite sometime now. Good luck this year.
uhh....wait? that's what hunting is kinda about dude. i used to try to sleep to...till i woke up about 3 inch's from falling 15 feet. then i thought it would be smarter to stay awake. dont get in the woods to early though, hour before sun up is just fine.
You should make yourself familiar with your surroundings. Note any apple trees or clumps of dirt far away that might look like deer. And look for places that a deer might be that you can't see very well.
Clear your mind - meditate, absorb in your mind the surrounding noises and try a discern what the critters are up to.
a hand-held video game w/the sound turned off or bring something like a mp3 player or iPod
play a hand held game w/ no sound
(poker, blackjack, etc.)
sleep
I want to place a quail hunting ad that comes up from using search, how can I do this?
There are many many hunting websites with discussion boards and forums. You can advertise on there, or be a sponsor.I want to place a quail hunting ad that comes up from using search, how can I do this?
You call google's ad department, silly.I want to place a quail hunting ad that comes up from using search, how can I do this?
Check with your local department of fish and game.
Here's California's: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/hunting
You might simply visit a local hunting store in your area, those guys will know where to go as well and possibly how to get tags if needed when the birds are in season.
do u honestly think someone will click one your stupid homemade ad that could possibly damage their computer? dont watse you timeclinique
You call google's ad department, silly.I want to place a quail hunting ad that comes up from using search, how can I do this?
Check with your local department of fish and game.
Here's California's: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/hunting
You might simply visit a local hunting store in your area, those guys will know where to go as well and possibly how to get tags if needed when the birds are in season.
do u honestly think someone will click one your stupid homemade ad that could possibly damage their computer? dont watse you time
What's your method for job hunting?
I've been searching and searching for a job. Its ridiculous!!! I was just wondering what everyone's methods are.What's your method for job hunting?
According to studies, and very suprisingly, calling up businesses out of the yellow pages phone book is the most effective way to find a job. Just pick businesses that look interesting to you and ask them if they are hiring. Its even more effective if you have a group of people helping you. Sometimes you end up having an interview over the phone.What's your method for job hunting?
THE BEST ADVISE I CAN GIVE YOU IS DOOR TO DOOR......AND BE AGGRESSIVE .....SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOUR READY TO GO TO WORK
According to studies, and very suprisingly, calling up businesses out of the yellow pages phone book is the most effective way to find a job. Just pick businesses that look interesting to you and ask them if they are hiring. Its even more effective if you have a group of people helping you. Sometimes you end up having an interview over the phone.What's your method for job hunting?
THE BEST ADVISE I CAN GIVE YOU IS DOOR TO DOOR......AND BE AGGRESSIVE .....SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOUR READY TO GO TO WORK
I needing some tips for job hunting in todays market?
A good resume is the first place to start. Then you must not be unrealistic in your expectations. Highlight your marketable skills without dwelling on them. Having good references is always a plus. If you get an interview, dress nicely, and appear to be interested in what the person is saying, even if you're not. Eye contact is important, as well as a firm handshake. Good luck, I hope you get the job you want.I needing some tips for job hunting in todays market?
Well - the best advice I could give you is , rather than approaching each stall holder , go directly to the guy who runs it - he will know if anybody needs any help . Having said that it's nearly midnight so todays market will be all packed up and gone - I'd get up earlier and try again next week - go straight to Mr Pickering , he knows most things about it - good luck .I needing some tips for job hunting in todays market?
Visit a career center - the local county workforce center is a great place to start. They can help you with your resume and find you opportunities to look at. Also visit career fairs.
Well - the best advice I could give you is , rather than approaching each stall holder , go directly to the guy who runs it - he will know if anybody needs any help . Having said that it's nearly midnight so todays market will be all packed up and gone - I'd get up earlier and try again next week - go straight to Mr Pickering , he knows most things about it - good luck .I needing some tips for job hunting in todays market?
Visit a career center - the local county workforce center is a great place to start. They can help you with your resume and find you opportunities to look at. Also visit career fairs.
Hunting. What has more power a 22 rifle or a 22mag rifle and by how much?
22 lr has 29% stopping power, 22 mag has 42% stopping power. This is determined by the power in one shot, so the mag has more power. However, 22lr is much more common and cheap than the magnum so I would suggest it for small game. For larger game, I would suggest a 223 (5.56 mm) savage rifle. it has amazing accuracy and is cheap.Hunting. What has more power a 22 rifle or a 22mag rifle and by how much?
The hottest .22 LR round I know of, the .22LR Aquilla hyper-velocity round, delivers around 204 ft-lbs of muzzle energy shooting 30 grain bullets at 1750 fps. The runner up, the CCI Stinger delivers 191 ft-lbs of muzzle energy shooting 32 grain bullets at 1640 fps.
CCI's .22 WMR Maxi-Mag TNT uses a 30 grain bullet at 2200 fps and delivers 322 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. That's pretty typical with the 40 grain versions only getting another 2 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and a decrease in muzzle energy for the 50 grain loads.
That means the .22 WMR loads typically are going to deliver 158% more energy at the muzzle. And given that the bullet weights are basically the same that should be fairly consistent throughout the bullets trajectory.Hunting. What has more power a 22 rifle or a 22mag rifle and by how much?
22LR = just shy of 200 ft/lbs of energy
22 mag = just over 300 ft/lbs of energy
so 22 mag is about 35% more powerful, or about 100-120 ft/lbs more powerful.
this translates into about 20-50 more yards of humane lethality for small game
The 22 Magnum has a Muzzle velocity of 2,250 feet per second.* The 22 Long Rifle has a Muzzle velocity of 1,435 feet per second.*... The 22 Magnum Wins.*~~
the 22 mag has more knock down power and can stretch that bit further for those longer shoots
22 mag homer!
The hottest .22 LR round I know of, the .22LR Aquilla hyper-velocity round, delivers around 204 ft-lbs of muzzle energy shooting 30 grain bullets at 1750 fps. The runner up, the CCI Stinger delivers 191 ft-lbs of muzzle energy shooting 32 grain bullets at 1640 fps.
CCI's .22 WMR Maxi-Mag TNT uses a 30 grain bullet at 2200 fps and delivers 322 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. That's pretty typical with the 40 grain versions only getting another 2 ft-lbs of muzzle energy and a decrease in muzzle energy for the 50 grain loads.
That means the .22 WMR loads typically are going to deliver 158% more energy at the muzzle. And given that the bullet weights are basically the same that should be fairly consistent throughout the bullets trajectory.Hunting. What has more power a 22 rifle or a 22mag rifle and by how much?
22LR = just shy of 200 ft/lbs of energy
22 mag = just over 300 ft/lbs of energy
so 22 mag is about 35% more powerful, or about 100-120 ft/lbs more powerful.
this translates into about 20-50 more yards of humane lethality for small game
The 22 Magnum has a Muzzle velocity of 2,250 feet per second.* The 22 Long Rifle has a Muzzle velocity of 1,435 feet per second.*... The 22 Magnum Wins.*~~
the 22 mag has more knock down power and can stretch that bit further for those longer shoots
22 mag homer!
Do you think a real ';Elite Hunting'; organization, as seen in Hostel, exists?
Just watched Hostel again and the thought came to mind. Do you think there are actual underground organizations that conduct murder-for-profit business?
If so, one would wonder how they would get contacts for that sort of thing.
Discuss.Do you think a real ';Elite Hunting'; organization, as seen in Hostel, exists?
Personally, I believe they exist. I saw some interesting happenings while traveling and living in Europe (not that ran across anything like Hostel).
I was going to paste some information, but I found a GREAT website that has links to crime organizations and associations. http://www.karisable.com/crorg.htm
';Several hints in Hostel support Elite Hunting's ties to Russian organized crime, specifically their business card, which contains the email address blatanikov@gang.rus, linking it to a Russian web domain (although in reality this domain zone does not exist, and Russian sites use .ru domains instead). Hostel: Part II however shows several organization members speaking Slovak, hinting at the organization's alleged local origins but also highlighting the members' inherent multilingualism from operating in Slovakia. Furthermore, the Russian Mafia is known to have several offshoots in Eastern Europe.';Do you think a real ';Elite Hunting'; organization, as seen in Hostel, exists?
Elite Hunting in itself is a fictional organization. However, organizations of this caliber do exist throughout the world. Many times. victims are of impoverished areas. However, there are occurrences when travelers or tramps of various non-third world countries are caught in the same ';game.';
This also goes hand in hand with grotesque entertainment such as snuff videos (which have been defined ';in theory'; as an urban legend - but who really wants to know the truth, right?), gang bangs and, of course, the complex system of human trafficking.
I believe they do as well. However, I doubt they exist in Europe, and if they do, they'd have to be in the poorest parts of Europe.
Thailand is where I think the stuff like in Hostel happens. That country is really messed, up dude. They have places where children are assaulted for cash. One organization is particular was featured on MSNBC awhile ago. It was very eye opening to say the least. Disgusting stuff, no doubt.
Anyway, Eli Roth mentioned hearing about a place in Thailand where people could pay to walk into a room and shoot someone in the head for money.
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If so, one would wonder how they would get contacts for that sort of thing.
Discuss.Do you think a real ';Elite Hunting'; organization, as seen in Hostel, exists?
Personally, I believe they exist. I saw some interesting happenings while traveling and living in Europe (not that ran across anything like Hostel).
I was going to paste some information, but I found a GREAT website that has links to crime organizations and associations. http://www.karisable.com/crorg.htm
';Several hints in Hostel support Elite Hunting's ties to Russian organized crime, specifically their business card, which contains the email address blatanikov@gang.rus, linking it to a Russian web domain (although in reality this domain zone does not exist, and Russian sites use .ru domains instead). Hostel: Part II however shows several organization members speaking Slovak, hinting at the organization's alleged local origins but also highlighting the members' inherent multilingualism from operating in Slovakia. Furthermore, the Russian Mafia is known to have several offshoots in Eastern Europe.';Do you think a real ';Elite Hunting'; organization, as seen in Hostel, exists?
Elite Hunting in itself is a fictional organization. However, organizations of this caliber do exist throughout the world. Many times. victims are of impoverished areas. However, there are occurrences when travelers or tramps of various non-third world countries are caught in the same ';game.';
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This also goes hand in hand with grotesque entertainment such as snuff videos (which have been defined ';in theory'; as an urban legend - but who really wants to know the truth, right?), gang bangs and, of course, the complex system of human trafficking.
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I believe they do as well. However, I doubt they exist in Europe, and if they do, they'd have to be in the poorest parts of Europe.
Thailand is where I think the stuff like in Hostel happens. That country is really messed, up dude. They have places where children are assaulted for cash. One organization is particular was featured on MSNBC awhile ago. It was very eye opening to say the least. Disgusting stuff, no doubt.
Anyway, Eli Roth mentioned hearing about a place in Thailand where people could pay to walk into a room and shoot someone in the head for money.
Hope I helped you!
Is a Chinese SKS 7.62 X 39 mm a legal deer hunting rifle?
I'm seriously considering buying one due to it's cheap price and I've read a lot about it's durability. If anybody could tell me if it would be a legal deer hunting rifle and if you have any input, please reply. Is a Chinese SKS 7.62 X 39 mm a legal deer hunting rifle?
i am a law enforcement officer in alabama. i have an sks and i use it deer hunting. just make sure that u don't have more than 5 rounds in it.Is a Chinese SKS 7.62 X 39 mm a legal deer hunting rifle?
If you are a LEO in Alabama please check up on the law. I talked with the Dept of Wildlife and Fresh Water Fish yesterday. They told me the law had been changed since so many guns carry 10 round clips. The law now states 10 in the clip and 1 in the chamber on public land. No limit on private land
Yes..... you just need to replace the standard magazine with a 5 round magazine.
Costs like 10 bucks from cheaperthandirt.com....
SKS is decent. Don't reach out beyond about 150 yards though.... the cartridge fails you after that distance, for hunting purposes.
Also, if the rifle is not accurate enough, you have even less effective range.
So, it is legal with a minor modification, and you have to accept the abilities of the rifle, the cartridge, and yourself.
Yes.... Under certain conditions.... Not all counties in all states allow a semi-auto rifle for deer hunting..... In the areas that a semi-auto is allowed the magazine must not have a capacity of more then 5 rounds / cartridges.... In my area an SKS rifle is perfectly legal as long as its set up not to accept more than 5 cartridges.....
The 7.62X39MM cartridge is well suited for deer under a few conditions.... This cartridge has the required 1000 foot pounds of force for white tail deer to 150 yards.... You must only use soft point bullets... The FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) bullets commonly purchased in bulk for the SKS rifle may not cleany, humanely and quickly kill a deer... It likely will run off and die a slow painful death using FMJ if the shot placement isnt correct....
The SKS is an excellent deer rifle too 100 yards using open iron sights... Although the 7.62x39MM is fine for shots to 150 yards the rifles accuracy may not be up to the task.... You may be tempted to install a scope... This might sound like a great idea but in my experience this presents another problem.... I and none of my friends that own the SKS rifle have been able to keep a scope dialed in and on the money.... The scope mounts work loose and loose accuracy fast.... If you really want to use a scope on an SKS just be sure you buy a quality scope mount and search the net for decent info from other successful users on how to get these mounts/scopes on and to stay put......
Stick with the above info and the SKS can be a real good deer rifle... I have hunted deer with an SKS and have been successful taking deer under 100 yards - use soft point ammo.....
You didnt mention much about the chinese rifle... Have you bought it yet??? My advice about those is only use one in decent condition... Dont buy one of these beat up, worn out and in my opinion dangerous rifles.... Purchase one in new, almost new or refurbished to almost new condition......
Check these SKS rifles out....
http://www.samcoglobal.com/sks.html
I live in Virginia and I own an SKS 7.62 X 39 mm everything is original on the gun. I've used it some several times to deer hunt and it seems to be a great cheap riffle for Deer. My buddy also use's one and he has a scope on his SKS and its very accurate at a long distance. I hope this has helped!
depends where you live? People use them here in Oregon but they do something to the clip so it can only hold X ammount. I quit rifle hunting for bow hunting some years back but that is how it was. don't use fmj's get hollow points
Be sure to check the regs for the state(s) you're hunting in, semi-autos are banned in some.
100% legal so long as you only carry 5 rounds.
Yeah, just make sure you get 5 round magazine swap. Great out to 150 yrds.
ys it is as long as it a center fire, too make sure you got only 5 round in the rifleclinique
i am a law enforcement officer in alabama. i have an sks and i use it deer hunting. just make sure that u don't have more than 5 rounds in it.Is a Chinese SKS 7.62 X 39 mm a legal deer hunting rifle?
If you are a LEO in Alabama please check up on the law. I talked with the Dept of Wildlife and Fresh Water Fish yesterday. They told me the law had been changed since so many guns carry 10 round clips. The law now states 10 in the clip and 1 in the chamber on public land. No limit on private land
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Yes..... you just need to replace the standard magazine with a 5 round magazine.
Costs like 10 bucks from cheaperthandirt.com....
SKS is decent. Don't reach out beyond about 150 yards though.... the cartridge fails you after that distance, for hunting purposes.
Also, if the rifle is not accurate enough, you have even less effective range.
So, it is legal with a minor modification, and you have to accept the abilities of the rifle, the cartridge, and yourself.
Yes.... Under certain conditions.... Not all counties in all states allow a semi-auto rifle for deer hunting..... In the areas that a semi-auto is allowed the magazine must not have a capacity of more then 5 rounds / cartridges.... In my area an SKS rifle is perfectly legal as long as its set up not to accept more than 5 cartridges.....
The 7.62X39MM cartridge is well suited for deer under a few conditions.... This cartridge has the required 1000 foot pounds of force for white tail deer to 150 yards.... You must only use soft point bullets... The FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) bullets commonly purchased in bulk for the SKS rifle may not cleany, humanely and quickly kill a deer... It likely will run off and die a slow painful death using FMJ if the shot placement isnt correct....
The SKS is an excellent deer rifle too 100 yards using open iron sights... Although the 7.62x39MM is fine for shots to 150 yards the rifles accuracy may not be up to the task.... You may be tempted to install a scope... This might sound like a great idea but in my experience this presents another problem.... I and none of my friends that own the SKS rifle have been able to keep a scope dialed in and on the money.... The scope mounts work loose and loose accuracy fast.... If you really want to use a scope on an SKS just be sure you buy a quality scope mount and search the net for decent info from other successful users on how to get these mounts/scopes on and to stay put......
Stick with the above info and the SKS can be a real good deer rifle... I have hunted deer with an SKS and have been successful taking deer under 100 yards - use soft point ammo.....
You didnt mention much about the chinese rifle... Have you bought it yet??? My advice about those is only use one in decent condition... Dont buy one of these beat up, worn out and in my opinion dangerous rifles.... Purchase one in new, almost new or refurbished to almost new condition......
Check these SKS rifles out....
http://www.samcoglobal.com/sks.html
I live in Virginia and I own an SKS 7.62 X 39 mm everything is original on the gun. I've used it some several times to deer hunt and it seems to be a great cheap riffle for Deer. My buddy also use's one and he has a scope on his SKS and its very accurate at a long distance. I hope this has helped!
depends where you live? People use them here in Oregon but they do something to the clip so it can only hold X ammount. I quit rifle hunting for bow hunting some years back but that is how it was. don't use fmj's get hollow points
Be sure to check the regs for the state(s) you're hunting in, semi-autos are banned in some.
100% legal so long as you only carry 5 rounds.
Yeah, just make sure you get 5 round magazine swap. Great out to 150 yrds.
ys it is as long as it a center fire, too make sure you got only 5 round in the rifle
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